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    Remote Work Is Poised to Devastate America’s Cities - In order to survive, cities must let developers convert office buildings into housing.

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    The “work from home” revolution has been very good for political columnists who like to write shirtless in pajama pants and share too much personal information with their readers. But the phenomenon hasn’t been so great for America’s cities.
    The nation’s office buildings aren’t as empty as they were before COVID vaccines became widely available in spring 2021. But they’re still far less populated than they were in 2019. A recent analysis of Census Bureau data from the financial site Lending Tree found that 29 percent of Americans were working from home in October 2022. In New York City, financial firms reported that only 56 percent of their employees were in the office on a typical day in September.
    Full-time remote work has grown less prevalent since the worst days of the pandemic. But flexible work arrangements — in which employees report to the office a couple times a week — are proving stickier. A recent paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research estimated that 30 percent of all full-time workdays would be performed remotely by the end of 2022.
    As Insider’s Emil Skandul illustrates in an excellent piece, these surveys and projections are buttressed by mobile phone data showing that, in virtually all major U.S. cities, foot traffic in central business districts is down substantially from 2019.


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    If much work is going to stay remote, why would people chose to live in cities? Some will. Enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If much work is going to stay remote, why would people chose to live in cities? Some will. Enough?
    They want to convince you that living in a city is safe, convenient, cool, healthy and cheaper. None of which is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    They want to convince you that living in a city is safe, convenient, cool, healthy and cheaper. None of which is true.
    Right. If you are young, single and not burdened by debt, if your job is in the city I could see living nearby work, and entertainment- it could be fun and no commuting. Add remote working for many, and they don't have a great reason for spending more for much less just so they are close to quality entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If much work is going to stay remote, why would people chose to live in cities? Some will. Enough?
    I believe many large cities, especially costal, may have outlived their usefulness. especially given all their ills like crime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If much work is going to stay remote, why would people chose to live in cities? Some will. Enough?
    If there is plenty of entertainment and activities available, there will always be people who prefer to live in the urban jungle, at least until they get older and perhaps would then enjoy a quieter lifestyle. Perhaps we will see urban farms in some of those office towers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    If there is plenty of entertainment and activities available, there will always be people who prefer to live in the urban jungle, at least until they get older and perhaps would then enjoy a quieter lifestyle. Perhaps we will see urban farms in some of those office towers.
    Some will. When you can live, work, and be entertained within walking distance it is better than if you only have 1 or 2 of those together. My question remains: will enough live there to keep the city non-ghetto (in the areas that are nice pre-COVID).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Some will. When you can live, work, and be entertained within walking distance it is better than if you only have 1 or 2 of those together. My question remains: will enough live there to keep the city non-ghetto (in the areas that are nice pre-COVID).
    If there are enough immigrants. Immigrants from many parts of the world (including Europe) are accustomed to apartment living, so they would be happy to live in an urban environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    If there are enough immigrants. Immigrants from many parts of the world (including Europe) are accustomed to apartment living, so they would be happy to live in an urban environment.
    Agree. Maybe Little Italy will become big Italy in NYC. That would be worth another trip for me.

    But infrastructure will start to fall apart. A modern urban center needs lots of $$$ for maintenance and servicing it.
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    Good. More open land for those of us who don't prefer the Big City hassle.
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