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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Young View Post
    Those hatreds would be better called "Culturalism" but it will likely never catch on.

    The Costa Ricans and Nicaraguans openly hate each other, though more from the Costa Ricans, yet they're of the same race, The same is true of many neighbors around the world but we don't often hear of it until a war breaks out.
    Agree. But that was how people thought (and still do) prior to science coming along and redefining it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    So we have a lot of threads where there is some really silly things being said about racism, and certainly there are those that are at the far end of the spectrum that believe some of this is true.

    I also don't think that anyone will deny that there is REAL RACISM in this world. So I have a question. As a conservative I am often labeled a Racist by the left. I ask for examples and have yet to know the policies that are supported by someone like myself that make me a racist.

    So I will ask everyone to keep this thread civil and respond to one another with facts and supporting information and not just insults and platitudes

    I really would like to know what real racism looks like to different people

    Good idea for a thread.

    Real racism is about treating others in a way that is designed to keep them away from you and lessen their chances of success or involvement.

    It's not about how you feel--it's not about what's in your head and heart. That's your own thing--and you're welcome to it. It's about what comes out of your mouth and your actions.

    You may really be uncomfortable with your daughter bringing home a black boyfriend, but if you keep that to yourself and treat him the same as you would treat any male she brought home, you're not being racist. It's when you casually say something demeaning to him, go out of your way not to invite them to a family event, take your daughter aside and question her feelings, or share your concerns with your buddies at the club that you cross over into racism.
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    If a white woman walks down a dark street and sees a group of white boys and crosses the street to avoid them then no one has a problem with that.

    If the same white woman sees a group of black boys and crosses the street to avoid them the she would be proclaimed a racist by many.

    Put them all in tuxes and the same woman walks through them and tells the boys how good the look. Or change the groups to woman.

    Racism is in the eyes of the accuser. They are trying to tell you to ignore what you know or feel about situations or groups. They don't care what the basis of your reality or perception is.

    Prejudice is the automatically applying characteristics of the group to the individual. True or not.

    But people use the racist, prejudice and bigot words interchangeably all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Good idea for a thread.

    Real racism is about treating others in a way that is designed to keep them away from you and lessen their chances of success or involvement.

    It's not about how you feel--it's not about what's in your head and heart. That's your own thing--and you're welcome to it. It's about what comes out of your mouth and your actions.

    You may really be uncomfortable with your daughter bringing home a black boyfriend, but if you keep that to yourself and treat him the same as you would treat any male she brought home, you're not being racist. It's when you casually say something demeaning to him, go out of your way not to invite them to a family event, take your daughter aside and question her feelings, or share your concerns with your buddies at the club that you cross over into racism.
    Until you make him the ex-con black boyfriend. Now regardless of what you think internally you will be labeled racist if the ex-con is black vs white.
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    We could suddenly all turn grey, and liberals would find a way to declare something racist.
    Racism is an internal device with an exterior application.
    You will never get rid of racism until everyone is grey.
    I will also note that racism exists within EVERY race, and it just isn't an issue in America
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    We could suddenly all turn grey, and liberals would find a way to declare something racist.
    Racism is an internal device with an exterior application.
    You will never get rid of racism until everyone is grey.
    I will also note that racism exists within EVERY race, and it just isn't an issue on America
    The people claiming racism are usually the racists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    So we have a lot of threads where there is some really silly things being said about racism, and certainly there are those that are at the far end of the spectrum that believe some of this is true.

    I also don't think that anyone will deny that there is REAL RACISM in this world. So I have a question. As a conservative I am often labeled a Racist by the left. I ask for examples and have yet to know the policies that are supported by someone like myself that make me a racist.

    So I will ask everyone to keep this thread civil and respond to one another with facts and supporting information and not just insults and platitudes

    I really would like to know what real racism looks like to different people
    When Dems label modern day conservatives as racists they are misusing the term and merely projecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    The people claiming racism are usually the racists.
    My point exactly...........
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    Race was invented by liberals

    ...Liberalism, the last modern universalism still sort of hobbling along, has increasingly come to rely on racial disparities to perpetuate itself....

    ...At its most ludicrous, this tendency impelled supposedly “progressive” institutions to adopt racialised modes of thinking.... Excellence, punctuality, orderliness and objective thinking came to be regarded as “White” values, not to be expected of “Black” people (the capitalisation of these terms required by the new orthography underscored their essential, immutable, and “natural” quality). At times, it became genuinely difficult to distinguish the latest woke diktats — such as the National Museum of African American History and Culture’s claim that “hard work” is a white value — from the rantings of David Duke.

    For Kenan Malik, this strange mirroring, of progressive identity politics and reactionary racism, is no accident. He argues, in his new history of race and racism, Not So Black and White, that both are reactions to one of the Enlightenment’s most persistent and bedevilling paradoxes: the fact that this new order asserted the radical equality of all human beings, and heralded their emancipation in the political sphere, even as it allowed profound inequalities and vicious exploitation in the material, economic sphere.

    His history briefly touches on the premodern era before very quickly shifting to the modern. This is for good reason. The premodern world, as he rightly notes, knew tribe, nation, and cult, and it certainly knew prejudice. But race — as a dubious biological category sometimes elevated to the ontological — is distinctly modern....

    In the 19th century, these incipient racial attitudes hardened into supposedly “scientific” knowledge. And yet, as Malik shows, the new race “science” was anything but. Why, for example, did early race theorist Johann Blumenbach pioneer the term “Caucasian”? Get ready for the hard science: “I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, because its neighbourhood … produces the most beautiful race.” In other words, aesthetic biases were transmuted into “scientific” categories that remain in use among government census-takers and statisticians to this day.

    ...Progressive identity politics, he suggests, obsessed with “cultural appropriation” and language-policing, harkens back to old ideas of racial separateness....
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    I don't know who said this and I only have a minute, but I agree with it. When you purposely pass laws, or insert obstacles that try and prevent a group of people from succeeding, or living in certain areas, I believe that is Prejudice, and of course if that is based on race then racism exists. So I give Credit to whomever that was. I like the definition.

    Which brings me to the policies of our government and what they are inflicting on those that do not have financial means to break the chains of government run establishments like Schools, Medical Care, Welfare assistance.

    I don't think that anyone can look at these institutions and say that they are not deliberately targeting race and doing everything in their power to prevent their success.

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