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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Yes, it does appear that both Baldwin and the armorer were criminally negligent.
    Gutierrez was not called to the impromptu rehearsal and didn’t hand him the firearm.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    It's useful to read what someone is responding to before responding yourself. In this case the relevant part of the post I was responding to, which was quoted, by the way, was: "Seeing how there had already been incidents on set with live rounds complicates matters but is meat and potatoes for a civil suit." Responding that the civil aspect has already been settled thus has nothing to do with the criminal trial, making your response quite unnecessary, but it does make me wonder whether you read selectively. That may explain a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Gutierrez was not called to the impromptu rehearsal and didn’t hand him the firearm.
    Then why did Baldwin sue the armorer for handing him a pistol loaded with live rounds? That makes it sound like she was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    They do now, but at one time they didn't have built-in safeties. People got shot accidentally all the time.

    I am not lying about anything…..
    Ive certainly never said you are lying. You’re just incorrect because you have absolutely no training, knowledge or experience to draw on.

    Unintended shootings through negligence have occurred forever. That still doesn’t make them accidents.

    I have firearms made in the mid 1800’s and they have a safety lever. Some Firearms today are manufactured without a safety switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Then why did Baldwin sue the armorer for handing him a pistol loaded with live rounds? That makes it sound like she was there.
    The assistant director handed him the firearm. Baldwin can sue whoever he wants but he was being sued and he blamed it on the armorer as his defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    The assistant director handed him the firearm. Baldwin can sue whoever he wants but he was being sued and he blamed it on the armorer as his defense.
    Baldwin sued the armorer because according to him, She handed him the loaded pistol. This suggests that she was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Baldwin sued the armorer because according to him, She handed him the loaded pistol. This suggests that she was there.
    Dave Halls, the person who reportedly handed Baldwin the gun moments before the incident, has taken a plea deal on a charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Dave Halls, the person who reportedly handed Baldwin the gun moments before the incident, has taken a plea deal on a charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon.
    Ok. Maybe the armorer will be next.

    Who prepared the weapon for the scene? The armorer by admission loaded the pistol. She claimed she believed she was loading it with “dummy” rounds. So that means she had to be on site at the time.


    BTW, blank rounds are not dummy rounds.
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 01-26-2023 at 04:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Ok. Maybe the armorer will be next.

    Who prepared the weapon for the scene? The armorer by admission loaded the pistol. She claimed she believed she was loading it with “dummy” rounds. So that means she had to be on site at the time.


    BTW, blank rounds are not dummy rounds.
    Dummy rounds are a thing and it is not clear if they, or blanks, were used on set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Dummy rounds are a thing and it is not clear if they, or blanks, were used on set.
    The armoer, who was on the set at the time the shooting hapoened, said that she loaded the gun with what she thought were dummy rounds.

    I know that they are a thing, but they are not blank rounds. Dummy rounds are inert. They have no primer. They can not be discharged.


    It makes even less sense that she would load the pistol with dummy rounds if they were trying to replicate an actual discharging firearm. It sounds to me that this so called armorer is a complete incompetent who can't even distinguish a blank from a live round or a dummy round.


    Of course, none of that relieves Baldwin of his his responsibility in this.
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 01-26-2023 at 05:47 PM.
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