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Thread: A U.S.-China War Over Taiwan: How Bad Could It Get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    And a demographic crisis is at hand which suggests China's rise and decline may well occur within the same 100 years.
    Yes. They are at a cross roads. The key is what happens to their lower, very poor classes. If they can bring some economic advances to them, China will survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Alright. I read the first dozen pages. The games assume a great many things that do not exist today.

    It's goal is to influence policymakers to make appropriate changes.
    Maybe. But the DoD war game results remind me of the ones that concluded the Russian military could take the Baltics in 18 hours. Their Ukraine performance proves that was b.s. Likely an attempt to get a larger budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Maybe. But the DoD war game results remind me of the ones that concluded the Russian military could take the Baltics in 18 hours. Their Ukraine performance proves that was b.s. Likely an attempt to get a larger budget.
    Didn't we play that game for 44 years with the Soviets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Didn't we play that game for 44 years with the Soviets?
    I don't know. Did we over estimate them out of fear or political calculation?
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    Another issue- how fast can the industrial base kick into gear?:

    US military would run out of some munitions within a week of conflict with China, report

    The U.S. military would likely run out of some munitions within a week of conflict with China in the Taiwan Strait, according to a new report from the Center for Strategic & International Studies.


    "These shortfalls would make it extremely difficult for the United States to sustain a protracted conflict—and, equally concerning, the deficiencies undermine deterrence," states the report released Monday by the Washington, D.C., think tank.


    The group specifically cites a short supply of long-range, precision-guided munitions and
    President Joe Biden said in May that the United States would intervene militarily if China invades Taiwan.


    The think tank also found such such a limited stockpile of munitions would be compounded by China having already "heavily investing in munitions and acquiring high-end weapons systems and equipment five to six times faster than the United States, according to some U.S. government estimates."


    Still, the U.S. defense industrial base is overall operating at a level suited for a peaceful environment and it is not prepared for the current global situation, the report concluded.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I don't know. Did we over estimate them out of fear or political calculation?
    We underestimated them in WWII, underestimated them in Korea, and underestimated their economic potential throughout the 20th century. They now own much land in the US, own a ton of our debt, own a ton of our intellectual property, and have a Penn Biden Center for grifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    We underestimated them in WWII, underestimated them in Korea, and underestimated their economic potential throughout the 20th century. They now own much land in the US, own a ton of our debt, own a ton of our intellectual property, and have a Penn Biden Center for grifting.
    Are you referring to China?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Are you referring to China?
    Bangladesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Bangladesh
    My post was in response to Dave's question about the Soviets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Maybe. But the DoD war game results remind me of the ones that concluded the Russian military could take the Baltics in 18 hours. Their Ukraine performance proves that was b.s. Likely an attempt to get a larger budget.
    Over the years I have read about how the Russians bungled almost every major war for the first year. Then they replaced their political generals and won. I believe that is what is happening today.

    The US is about to embark in a major land war with Russia. I believe we will lose it to Russia and China. Our defeat will change the world.
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