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    The human skull that challenges the Out of Africa theory

    If the skull is 700,000 years old, it doesn't fit Out of Africa.


    The human skull that challenges the Out of Africa theory

    This is the account of the discovery of a skull that has the potential to change what we know about human evolution, and a suppression and cover-up which followed.


    In 1959, in an area called Chalkidiki in Petralona, Northern Greece, a shepherd came across a small opening to a cave, which became visible when a thick covering of snow finally melted. He gathered a group of villagers to help him clear the entrance so they could go inside and explore. They found a cave rich in stalactites and stalagmites. But they also found something surprising – a human skull embedded in the wall (later research also uncovered a huge number of fossils including pre-human species, animal hair, fossilized wood, and stone and bone tools).

    The skull was given to the University of Thessaloniki in Greece by the President of the Petralona Community. The agreement was that once the research was done, a museum would be opened featuring the findings from the Petralona cave, and the skull would be returned to be displayed in the museum – something that never happened.


    Dr Aris Poulianos, member of the UNESCO's IUAES (International Union of Anthropological and Ethnological Sciences), later founder of the Anthropological Association of Greece , and an expert anthropologist who was working at the University of Moscow at the time, was invited by the Prime Minister of Greece to return to Greece to take a position of a University Chair in Athens. This was due to the publication of his book, ‘The Origins of the Greeks’, which provides excellent research showing that Greek people didn’t originate from the Slavic nations but were indigenous to Greece. Upon his return to Greece, Dr Poulianos was made aware of the discovery of the skull at Petralona, and immediately started studying the Petralona cave and skull.


    The ‘Petralona man’, or Archanthropus of Petralona, as it has since been called, was found to be 700,000 years old, making it the oldest human europeoid (presenting European traits) of that age ever discovered in Europe. Dr Poulianos’ research showed that the Petralona man evolved separately in Europe and was not an ancestor of a species that came out of Africa.


    In 1964, independent German researchers, Breitinger and Sickenberg, tried to dismiss Dr Poulianos’ findings, arguing that the skull was only 50,000 years old and was indeed an ancestor that came from Africa. However, research published in the US in 1971 in the prestigious Archaeology magazine, backed up the findings that the skull was indeed 700,000 years old. This was based on an analysis of the cave’s stratigraphy and the sediment in which the skull was embedded. Further research in the cave discovered isolated teeth and two pre-human skeletons dating back 800,000 years, as well as other fossils of various species.


    Today, most academics who have analyzed the Petralona remains say that the cranium of the Archanthropus of Petralona belongs to an archaic hominid distinguished from Homo erectus, and from both the classic Neanderthals and anatomically modern humans, but showing characterists of all those species and presenting strong European traits. A skull dating back 700,000 which is either Homo sapien or part Homo sapien is in direct conflict with the Out of Africa theory of human evolution.
    Further excavations continued in the cave of Petralona with the participation of international researchers (46 specialists from 12 separate countries), which provided further proof of Dr Poulianos’ claims, including remarkable findings like fossilized pieces of wood, an oak leaf, animal hair and coprolites, which enabled accurate dating, as well as the almost continuous presence of stone and bone tools of the Archanthropus evolutionary stage, from the lower (750,000 years) to the upper (550,000 years) layers of sediment within the cave.
    The research, after an interruption due to the dictatorship in Greece, continued up to 1983. It was then ordered by the government that all excavations at the site were forbidden to anyone, including the original archaeological team, and for 15 years nobody had access to the site or to the findings – no reason was provided by the government. Was this denial of access to prevent the extraction of whatever new scientific conclusions remained hidden within the incredible fossils embedded within the layers of the caves’ walls?
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    Scientific orthodoxy has become a very powerful force in many fields of study, almost like a Priesthood. Many scientist spend a lot more time and money defending alleged truths rather than find new ones.............

    And man made Climate Change has become a major pillar in the Church of acceptable Science!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Scientific orthodoxy has become a very powerful force in many fields of study, almost like a Priesthood. Many scientist spend a lot more time and money defending alleged truths rather than find new ones.............

    And man made Climate Change has become a major pillar in the Church of acceptable Science!
    This is a case of ideological orthodoxy The intrusion of ideological concerns into the otherwise scientific questions of race and human difference is even clearer than it is for climate science and has been occurring for far longer.
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    Could this be the skull of joe biden's younger brother?
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    We identify the fingerprint of an archaic introgression event in the sub-Saharan populations included in the models (~ 4.0% in Khoisan, ~ 4.3% in Mbuti Pygmies, and ~ 5.8% in Mandenka) from an early divergent and currently extinct ghost modern human lineage.
    Whole-genome sequence analysis of a Pan African set of samples reveals archaic gene flow from an extinct basal population of modern humans into sub-Saharan populations | Genome Biology | Full Text (biomedcentral.com)

    West Africans have DNA from extinct humans (timeline suggests heidelbergensis), much like all non-Africans contain Neanderthal DNA. This finding hurts the out-of-Africa theory a lot. A lot of people used to think the Khoisan were the last common ancestors of all humans based off of genetic diversity. Instead, the last common ancestor was probably heidelbergensis or erectus, which both had a Eurasian presence.

    It seems most plausible that the LCA was heidelbergensis in west Asia that became cold or warm adapted depending on where they moved.
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    Don't you just hate it when scientists are proven wrong again. They build an industry around one theory and just can't let it go, especially when it fits a political narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Don't you just hate it when scientists are proven wrong again. They build an industry around one theory and just can't let it go, especially when it fits a political narrative.
    That hasn't happened just yet. Most others date the skull to between 160-275k years old.

    It is widely believed humans have been walking the Earth for between 200k-300k years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    That hasn't happened just yet. Most others date the skull to between 160-275k years old.

    It is widely believed humans have been walking the Earth for between 200k-300k years.
    The dating techniques are the same as those used for the other sites.

    Perhaps some have too much invested financially in their old theories to give it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    The dating techniques are the same as those used for the other sites.

    Perhaps some have too much invested financially in their old theories to give it up.
    There is a great deal invested both politically and ideologically in the Out of Africa Theory. One may even say that the postwar world order is predicated on it.
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    That is the way science works. Give Thomas S. Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions a read. The establishment hold onto their theories because it gives them both fame and funds for continued work. It takes much more than a skull to shake things up. Just as anomalies found in Webb Space Telescope images haven't debunked Big Bang, not yet.
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