Cory Booker Mocked After Claiming More Americans Died from Gun Violence in 50 Years T

[Peter1469]

OK, this is funny. A bad indictment of education in American, though.

Cory Booker Mocked After Claiming More Americans Died from Gun Violence in 50 Years Than All Wars Combined

Senator Cory Booker was questioned by viewers after claiming to have witnessed more deaths from gun violence in his lifetime than “all of our wars combined.”


Booker made the specious claims during an appearance with “Morning Joe” on MSNBC.


“We have more people in America in my short lifetime that have died due to gun violence than in every single one of our wars — from the Civil War and the Revolutionary War to the wars in the Middle East combined,” the New Jersey senator asserted.


He posted a video clip of the comments and a caption that echoed those sentiments, seemingly proud of his statement.
“I’m 53 years old, and I’ve seen more Americans die from domestic gun violence than from all of our wars combined,” he wrote. “Let that sink in.”


Needless to say, not everybody was buying the statistics Cory Booker was cooking up on gun violence and the history of wars that America has taken part in.

[RichardMZhlubb]

You can debate the value of the comparison, but Booker is correct. More Americans have died from guns in the last 53 years than in all US wars.

[countryboy]

You can debate the value of the comparison, but Booker is correct. More Americans have died from guns in the last 53 years than in all US wars.

Citation required.

Keep in mind exactly what he said, which is different than what you said. "I’ve seen more Americans die from domestic gun violence than from all of our wars combined".

[Peter1469]

You can debate the value of the comparison, but Booker is correct. More Americans have died from guns in the last 53 years than in all US wars.

Clown.

[DGUtley]

In 2020, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (24,292), while 43% were murders (19,384), according to the CDC. The remaining gun deaths that year were unintentional (535), involved law enforcement (611) or had undetermined circumstances (400).


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...hs-in-the-u-s/

[RichardMZhlubb]

In 2020, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (24,292), while 43% were murders (19,384), according to the CDC. The remaining gun deaths that year were unintentional (535), involved law enforcement (611) or had undetermined circumstances (400).


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...hs-in-the-u-s/

Booker is including all domestic gun deaths in his comparison. Like I said, you can dismiss the value of the comparison, but the data are correct.

[carolina73]

Suicides are the majority of gun deaths and they are not gun violence.
Suicide by pills is not pill violence.

But all that gun violence is being created by Democrats.
And black leaders are the ones protecting their own race that is over half the homicides and trying to keep them from going to jail.

Corey Booker is the cause.

[Standing Wolf]

If the numbers on either side, relative to one another, haven't changed significantly since 2017, when this article was published, Booker may be right. If the numbers cited in the article are correct, of course.

Since 1968, more than 1.5 million Americans have died in gun-related incidents, according to data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. By comparison, approximately 1.2 million service members have been killed in every war in U.S. history, according to estimates from the Department of Veterans Affairs and iCasualties.org, a website that maintains an ongoing database of casualties from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/la...mbined-n807156

[DGUtley]

Booker is including all domestic gun deaths in his comparison. Like I said, you can dismiss the value of the comparison, but the data are correct.

I don't mean to quibble with you, but he said gun violence. Suicide isn't gun violence.

[Standing Wolf]

I don't mean to quibble with you, but he said gun violence. Suicide isn't gun violence.

While I agree that it's unfair and sometimes downright dishonest to include suicides - along with shootings involving justified self-defense by the police or private citizens - in arguments concerning firearms-related deaths, in this particular case I believe an argument can be made for including them within the "violent death" category.

Obviously the incidence of suicide is not relevant to most discussions of or schemes related to gun control, and are therefore a distraction in those discussions; had Booker (or someone else) gone on to utilize that comparison in justifying a gun control scheme in which suicides by gun were included irrelevantly, I'd be on the side of excluding those deaths from consideration.