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    Attacks on the Fair Tax have begun

    The left wing media is telling people that they will have to pay 30% more for bread without telling them that the start with a 15.4% increase in their pay because of no payroll taxes.

    It also does not discuss the embedded taxes in the prices they pay and how the cost of their items would be reduced before they add the taxes. Consumers already pay the taxes that corporations pay producing their goods.

    Second the left wing media wants to get the propaganda out in advance of the bill so that they can propagandize the discussions.

    At the same time, the Freedom Caucus should look at the combination flat tax and NST. Start with the flat 15.4% rate of payroll taxes. No one would see a change in their paycheck and then add the remainder as an NST and watch prices fall.

    Example hit piece

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3...-the-tax-code/

    Here is one that tells people that a 30% tax would make them pay 70% more! LOL

    https://prospect.org/economy/2023-01...r-tax-act-irs/
    Last edited by carolina73; 01-27-2023 at 01:11 PM.
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    Yes the left will be in attack mode. And then they will complain about rich people and deductions under income taxes.
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    When it comes to taxation the only thing the left supports is system which gives government the power to impose higher rates of taxation.
    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.“ - Benjamin Franklin.


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    The same left media that ignored inflation Warnings for an entire year. Don't buy for a minute that they really care about the costs of living to average workers and tax payers.

    They are full of $#@! trying to protect the Super Rich and keep the corrupt system as it is!
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    First of all the 16th Amendment must be repealed. Otherwise not only will the Fair Tax be in place but the mechanism of increasing income taxes will continue to exist allowing Congress to impose income taxes at will.

    Secondly, corporations must take into consideration the imbedded taxes along every aspect of production and sales. Only then will the price to the consumer be reduced. I think the laws of supply and demand and competition will insure this is at least partially met. If a company can increase its profits by lowering its prices and thereby increasing sales I think this will ultimately prevail.

    As a consumer you can lower your tax burden by simply not buying the most expensive item on the shelf or buying anything at all.

    Taxes to the government should increase because now everyone who purchases anything will be subject to the taxes. The drug dealer making millions of untaxed dollars will be forced to contribute every time they make a purchase of any item for any reason.

    Neal Boortz book "The Fair Tax" spells out why the fair tax is a much improved method for everyone and will lead to a tremendous upswing in the economy. With the fair tax if you earn $1000.00 a week your paycheck will be $1000.00 a week, not the $650.00 per week after taxes. You can now control how much of that $350.00 per week you actually get to retain.

    The biggest con job ever pulled on the working man is the concept of "payroll deduction" which makes it seem its your employer and not the government that is reducing your paycheck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    When it comes to taxation the only thing the left supports is system which gives government the power to impose higher rates of taxation.
    And give tax breaks for campaign donations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA View Post
    First of all the 16th Amendment must be repealed. Otherwise not only will the Fair Tax be in place but the mechanism of increasing income taxes will continue to exist allowing Congress to impose income taxes at will.

    Secondly, corporations must take into consideration the imbedded taxes along every aspect of production and sales. Only then will the price to the consumer be reduced. I think the laws of supply and demand and competition will insure this is at least partially met. If a company can increase its profits by lowering its prices and thereby increasing sales I think this will ultimately prevail.

    As a consumer you can lower your tax burden by simply not buying the most expensive item on the shelf or buying anything at all.

    Taxes to the government should increase because now everyone who purchases anything will be subject to the taxes. The drug dealer making millions of untaxed dollars will be forced to contribute every time they make a purchase of any item for any reason.

    Neal Boortz book "The Fair Tax" spells out why the fair tax is a much improved method for everyone and will lead to a tremendous upswing in the economy. With the fair tax if you earn $1000.00 a week your paycheck will be $1000.00 a week, not the $650.00 per week after taxes. You can now control how much of that $350.00 per week you actually get to retain.

    The biggest con job ever pulled on the working man is the concept of "payroll deduction" which makes it seem its your employer and not the government that is reducing your paycheck.
    And employers will have to be forced to give their 1/2 of payroll taxes to the employee as an increase in wage.Your right that hiding it as an employer contribution is nonsense.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    And give tax breaks for campaign donations.
    Only for donations to Democrats.
    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.“ - Benjamin Franklin.


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