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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    The same way as I would describe someone that could walk out of a burning house by using a door they thought was ugly and choose not to.

    God did not invent sin, he invented free will as slavery would have been a sin. That man chooses to sin was not gods fault and he could have just left it at that. But he choose to provide a bridge and make it simple to find and free to cross, those that choose not to find it?

    That is not on him or me or anyone for that matter.

    So I would call a God that does that, Merciful!
    Your god set the house on fire.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Your god set the house on fire.
    Y U cryin' with the hose in your hand and the water's on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Your god set the house on fire.
    No man did that he did not force them to eat the apple!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt DilIon View Post
    Y U cryin' with the hose in your hand and the water's on?
    Is English your second language?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    No man did that he did not force them to eat the apple!
    Nonsense.
    Why do you let your monster off the hook?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt DilIon View Post
    Yeah, that's not happenin', brah.

    With no absolute morality, there is no basis for any morality.

    There has to be a standard for everything else to be compared to.

    Thanks for making my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    I guess that we look at things differently, I know that I don't try and tell people how to believe, yet I am answered constantly with them telling me what a monster my God is?

    Is there something that makes non believers feel better if the God of Christianity is a monster?
    If you tell me that you work for someone who has the power to end all wars, disease, hunger and suffering, yet doesn't...who insists that his employees follow a set of rules for life that mostly deal with telling him how great he is and abstaining from having sex in ways that he doesn't approve of...who teaches that refusal to believe everything he tells you about himself will result in punishment even after death...I'd have to say that your boss is, at a bare minimum, a d*ck and a psychopath.

    If God exists, he seriously needs a new Public Relations staff. The Christian god may have, at some point, been "worthy of all praise" - but we'll never know for sure, because people over the last two millennia have buried him beneath a mountain of pride, arrogance and entitlement. By far the absolute worst advertisement for Christianity is the attitude and behavior of some Christians.
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    I find most atheists are antitheists in the sense they argue against what they believe is theism. They're just fighting demons in their own heads, a form of cognitive dissonance.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Why do you think that?
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Nonsense.
    Why do you let your monster off the hook?
    In the beginning Man had One rule don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. that was it! Why do you blame god for the actions of Man.

    Why is it that you think God would be responsible for that?

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