Actually, they're dying in defense of their corrupt government's illegitimate territorial claims over the Donbass, which effectively seceded in 2014 after Ukraine's democratically elected president was overthrown in a US-backed coup.
But that doesn't sound as a good as dying for one's "homeland".
You can't have it both ways. You can't promote the narrative that Putin is Hitler 2.0 and stop short of total war with Russia. It's a package deal. Either Putin is the new Hitler, in which case only total war can stop him, or he's a rational actor, which means we can negotiate with him. Pick one.Now, not unlike Vietnam, if we sent American troops to Ukraine our men and women would be dying for nothing.
Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
--John Adams
Peter1469 (03-12-2023)
If Putin was really interested in expansion and conquest, he would have leveled Kiev on day 1 of the war. And he wouldn't have waited eight years to invade mainland Ukraine. He wouldn't have refused to recognize the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk during that time. He wouldn't have entered into the Minsk accords. He would have just invaded in 2014 with the full might of the Russian military and annihilated all opposition.
Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
--John Adams
The second part of this quote is not mine.
I will say that Putin must be stopped, that is my belief, it might be possible to stop him with out committing the US Military, if we can I am OK with that, if that is what it takes to stop him then I believe we should in fact make that commitment.
You and I were Talking about Reagan, he took nothing off the table, and I don't think that we should either.
Please be more carful and don't make others words look like mine.
I hope that you are right be with the leaked memos of the expansion into Belarus I don't think he is done. and you might wait 8 years because you need a weak President of the USA to get away with it.
Obama was a lot of thinks but he did not mind welding the US Military and Trump was unpredictable
Except Putin took Crimea while Obama was president. Clearly, then, he wasn't overly worried with how Obama would respond.
And waiting for a "weak" president only ensured that Kiev would grow stronger in the meantime, making any attempt at an invasion that much harder.
The perfect time for Putin to take Ukraine, if that's what he really wanted to do, was in 2014 when the country was destabilized by the coup. He simply didn't want to do it.
It's the same reason why Kiev hasn't been reduced to a smoldering pile of rubble. What kind of "conquest" is it when the would-be "conqueror" allows the enemy capitol to remain standing, even though they could easily destroy it?
Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
--John Adams
You're an ass. Supplying the means for Urania to fight is not any American sacrifice. Ukraine has fought the invasion before we helped. You use that "go there and fight" because you don't have anything else.No one has called for American troops. It's a con you use and use poorly.
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