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    (The Wall Street Journal) For Some Cancers, Less Treatment Is a Better Bet

    Cervical, rectal cancer patients responded as well to less aggressive care, studies show

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-som...r-bet-ed94d8ef

    Doctors are coalescing around the ironic idea that for some cancer treatment, less can be better.

    Some patients with cervical and pancreatic cancer can do as well with less invasive surgery, according to research presented at the American Society of Clinical Oncology conference in Chicago over the weekend. Other studies at the annual meeting showed some patients with rectal cancer or Hodgkin lymphoma can safely get less radiation.

    The findings expand a body of evidence doctors are using to design treatment plans that aim to reduce side effects and costs. They call the strategy de-escalation: cutting back on some therapies to improve a patient’s quality of life without hurting their odds of survival.

    Newer treatments and tests are extending patients’ lives and moving cancer care away from a blunt, one-size-fits-all approach. On the strength of studies like those presented in Chicago, doctors are getting better at determining who needs the most aggressive care and who can get away with less treatment and less collateral damage.

    “It’s time to look at less toxic approaches,” said Dr. Julie Gralow, chief medical officer and executive vice president of the American Society of Clinical Oncology.
    Because the "treatment" is the disease. The doctors are the ones killing you, all while their hand probes deeper and deeper into your pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    That’s not alarming jump and it could be for several reasons. When I had my biopsy my PSA level was up to 14. It was caused by some sort of infection. I was given antibiotics and it went back down to 2 and lower.

    I had a biopsy a few years ago. I don’t want to do it again. I received no pain medication at all prior to the procedure. 12 snips out of the prostate and all 12 were painful.

    I was talking about with the doctor I just saw and he got angry when I told him I received no type of pain meds prior. He said that doctor should be sanctioned as now a prostate biopsy should just be a mild discomfort.
    Wow, glad I read this after I had it. I asked about infection and he said the old way was through your anus and that was more prone to infection. He went under my scrotum but kept using lidocain to deaden it. It worked well. So he and two ladies are looking where few have ventured and they were professional and he kept me informed about it all. Now I wait about 5-10 days for the results. It was not nearly as bad I thought it might be. What you had was crazy. glad to hear it was only an infection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Don't you worry. The longer and harder they look, the more they poke, prod, and slice at you, the more likely it becomes they will find "cancer".

    Ah, but aren't you lucky? For only the low, low price of $40,000 a year, you can avail yourself of the miracles of modern medicine and buy yourself a chance at survival.
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    Biopsy was positive for prostate cancer. I think its pretty early. So now a PET scan and then meet with the experts. They have this very precise robotic surgery now. Im confident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Don't you worry. The longer and harder they look, the more they poke, prod, and slice at you, the more likely it becomes they will find "cancer".

    Ah, but aren't you lucky? For only the low, low price of $40,000 a year, you can avail yourself of the miracles of modern medicine and buy yourself a chance at survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenpe View Post
    Wow, glad I read this after I had it. I asked about infection and he said the old way was through your anus and that was more prone to infection. He went under my scrotum but kept using lidocain to deaden it. It worked well. So he and two ladies are looking where few have ventured and they were professional and he kept me informed about it all. Now I wait about 5-10 days for the results. It was not nearly as bad I thought it might be. What you had was crazy. glad to hear it was only an infection.
    I have an enlarged prostrate. Yesterday I had a procedure called a urolift. I was given two choices. Anesthetic in the hospital and an all day thing or in the urologist’s office with only nitrous oxide and. Ten minute procedure. . I chose the gas. It was worthless. It did nothing. A very painful 10 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Don't you worry. The longer and harder they look, the more they poke, prod, and slice at you, the more likely it becomes they will find "cancer".

    Ah, but aren't you lucky? For only the low, low price of $40,000 a year, you can avail yourself of the miracles of modern medicine and buy yourself a chance at survival.
    Yep, you sure wouldn’t want to discover that you have treatable cancer and take care of it and prolong your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenpe View Post
    Biopsy was positive for prostate cancer. I think it’s pretty early. So now a PET scan and then meet with the experts. They have this very precise robotic surgery now. Im confident.
    That’s unfortunate, but prostrate cancer is very slow growing. I’m assuming you've caught it early. There are new non invasive but effective treatments.

    This might be a treatment you might talk about with your doctor.

    https://cyberknife.com/prostate-cancer/
    You have more options than ever for successfully treating prostate cancer. The “best” option for you is the one that fits your life — from the specifics of your cancer and your overall health, to your age and lifestyle. The CyberKnife® System was designed to help you gain control over your prostate cancer in the shortest number of physician visits and with as little impact on your romantic life or urinary and bowel functio
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 06-17-2023 at 12:15 PM.
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    I had an old doctor tell me that men our age should be wacking it at least 2 times a week to ward off prostate cancer.
    And there is something to it https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-...rostate_cancer



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