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Thread: After Giving Them Billions, The US Government Wants To Bail Out Moderna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Seeing the Administration* be proactive in favor of Moderna does raise a question- how close did Moderna get to the actual government decision making process related to COVID policy. This sounds like a friend coming to the aid of someone in need. Not sound government policy.
    I read someplace a while back that Moderna had posted almost a billion dollars in profits last year..................someone is stealing from the taxpayers.
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    I'm not sure this is unfair.
    The US government was pushing for speed and expediting everything through the process.

    The vaccines saved lives of older and unhealthy people, while it was effective.

    It was the Biden Administration that pushed the the vaccine into the arms of young people.

    It was the Biden Administration that pushed the the vaccine into the arms of all people beyond its effective period.

    Arbutus and Genevant would have to answer for why they did not develop the mRNA vaccine if it was their technology and patents are also normally focused on application, not just I mixed A with B and got C.

    So, I don't think that the anti-vaxxers hatred for the vaccine should pollute the opinions on this case.
    The government including Trump wanted a solution and damn the torpedoes. They did not want a 4 year Spanish Flu epidemic. Shortcuts were certainly taken.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    There are likely things in these investigations that the government wants to make sure the pharmaceuticals are on their side for. I see it a hush money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    I'm not sure this is unfair.
    The US government was pushing for speed and expediting everything through the process.

    The vaccines saved lives of older and unhealthy people, while it was effective.

    It was the Biden Administration that pushed the the vaccine into the arms of young people.

    It was the Biden Administration that pushed the the vaccine into the arms of all people beyond its effective period.

    Arbutus and Genevant would have to answer for why they did not develop the mRNA vaccine if it was their technology and patents are also normally focused on application, not just I mixed A with B and got C.

    So, I don't think that the anti-vaxxers hatred for the vaccine should pollute the opinions on this case.
    The government including Trump wanted a solution and damn the torpedoes. They did not want a 4 year Spanish Flu epidemic. Shortcuts were certainly taken.
    The government over-ordered on vaccines. That is why they are shoving this jab in every arm they can.
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    This will probably be approved as bipartisan, as many politicians own stock in this company and it will affect their bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    The government over-ordered on vaccines. That is why they are shoving this jab in every arm they can.
    I'm not sure that is true. They could throw them away at lower liability, so this is probably more of a government power deal. Your going to do it because we told you to. And you are going to like who we tell you to like and hate who we tell you to hate. These government employees are some really sick $#@!s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    I'm not sure this is unfair.
    The US government was pushing for speed and expediting everything through the process.

    The vaccines saved lives of older and unhealthy people, while it was effective.

    It was the Biden Administration that pushed the the vaccine into the arms of young people.

    It was the Biden Administration that pushed the the vaccine into the arms of all people beyond its effective period.

    Arbutus and Genevant would have to answer for why they did not develop the mRNA vaccine if it was their technology and patents are also normally focused on application, not just I mixed A with B and got C.

    So, I don't think that the anti-vaxxers hatred for the vaccine should pollute the opinions on this case.
    The government including Trump wanted a solution and damn the torpedoes. They did not want a 4 year Spanish Flu epidemic. Shortcuts were certainly taken.
    A big part of their money problems is a patent infringement case (these come with crazy high judgements if you lose)- if Moderna stole some other company's proprietary info to make the vax, why should US tax dollars cover the judgement?
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    They took a risk to make a significant profit. If they get caught that is on them. They may pay a large sum to the other company, but I guarantee it doesn't come close to the money they got from the taxpayer.

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