More Sanity from the US Supreme Court

[zelmo1234]

And, by the way, @zelmo1234, teens always had to tell their parents or get a waiver from a judge.

Like I said, it's really nothing.

On the list of things women's right advocates are fighting--this one is at the basement level. Because it affects virtually no one.

Actually, the judge waiver, if it had been used, which it wasn't because teens didn't want to go that route, offers what might be a life line to teen girls whose dads either fathered their babies or might beat them to death.

But, the kids didn't use it so it doesn't matter. If those MO kids want to abort and not tell their parents, there are now resources in MO that will help them with travel and expenses to states where it's legal for them to abort.

The only time a ruling like this might make a difference would be in a state where it's already permissable for teens to abort. In many states that allow abortions, teens must get their parent's approval, which, as I said is easy, because it's the parents who typically push them to abort.

Yes this takes the waver from the judge out of the equation Thank God the Government is not better than family for making these decisions

And if that is what the family decided to do, I am OK with that, as for Rape and incest, lets get those basters where they belong in jail, I don't believe this law make it illegal to report that you have been raped.
So that is a none issue.

I do think that it is nice that you are so willing to support the children breaking the law and killing a baby something that might have a psychological impact on them for the rest of their life.

[Chris]

It's a victory for life but in reality a minor one. The court merely vacated a lower court's ruling made prior to Dobbs, which made it moot.

It's hard to tell what Jackson’s dissent means. That she wanted to hear the case? She says "I am concerned that contemporary practice related to so- called “Munsingwear vacaturs” has drifted away from the doctrine’s foundational moorings." And spends 4 pages explaining if you care to read: https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...jdissent032023.

[BenjaminO]

Yes this takes the waver from the judge out of the equation Thank God the Government is not better than family for making these decisions

And if that is what the family decided to do, I am OK with that, as for Rape and incest, lets get those basters where they belong in jail, I don't believe this law make it illegal to report that you have been raped.
So that is a none issue.

I do think that it is nice that you are so willing to support the children breaking the law and killing a baby something that might have a psychological impact on them for the rest of their life.

Have you ever looked at the psychological damage to teenagers and their babies?

THE CHILDREN OF TEEN CHILDBEARERS

It is clear that being a child of a teenage mother often entails numerous risks: low birth weight, complications of the mother's pregnancy and delivery, and health problems associated with poor perinatal outcomes; greater risk of perinatal death; lower IQ and academic achievement later on, including a greater risk of repeating a grade; greater risk of socio-emotional problems; a greater risk of having a fatal accident before age one; and finally, a greater probability of starting one's own family at an early age.

Vital statistics data (NCHS, 1984) show that children of teen mothers are more likely to be below 2500 grams at birth than children of mothers 20 to 39, and the younger the age of the mother the higher the proportion of infants of low birth weight.
Low birth weight babies are subject to higher risks of death, mental retardation, and other health problems (Williams and Chen, 1982). Low birth weight has also been implicated in poor intelligence and achievement test scores in childhood

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK219236/

[countryboy]

Have you ever looked at the psychological damage to teenagers and their babies?

THE CHILDREN OF TEEN CHILDBEARERS

It is clear that being a child of a teenage mother often entails numerous risks: low birth weight, complications of the mother's pregnancy and delivery, and health problems associated with poor perinatal outcomes; greater risk of perinatal death; lower IQ and academic achievement later on, including a greater risk of repeating a grade; greater risk of socio-emotional problems; a greater risk of having a fatal accident before age one; and finally, a greater probability of starting one's own family at an early age.

Vital statistics data (NCHS, 1984) show that children of teen mothers are more likely to be below 2500 grams at birth than children of mothers 20 to 39, and the younger the age of the mother the higher the proportion of infants of low birth weight.
Low birth weight babies are subject to higher risks of death, mental retardation, and other health problems (Williams and Chen, 1982). Low birth weight has also been implicated in poor intelligence and achievement test scores in childhood

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK219236/

Have you ever looked at the physical damage to babies when you kill them? It's pretty significant.

[carolina73]

Have you ever looked at the psychological damage to teenagers and their babies?

THE CHILDREN OF TEEN CHILDBEARERS

It is clear that being a child of a teenage mother often entails numerous risks: low birth weight, complications of the mother's pregnancy and delivery, and health problems associated with poor perinatal outcomes; greater risk of perinatal death; lower IQ and academic achievement later on, including a greater risk of repeating a grade; greater risk of socio-emotional problems; a greater risk of having a fatal accident before age one; and finally, a greater probability of starting one's own family at an early age.

Vital statistics data (NCHS, 1984) show that children of teen mothers are more likely to be below 2500 grams at birth than children of mothers 20 to 39, and the younger the age of the mother the higher the proportion of infants of low birth weight.
Low birth weight babies are subject to higher risks of death, mental retardation, and other health problems (Williams and Chen, 1982). Low birth weight has also been implicated in poor intelligence and achievement test scores in childhood

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK219236/

So you mean that young girls should not be having sex. Maybe that is what the teachers should be selling instead of teaching them the alternatives that I won't mention, to save you having to deny that they do.

[carolina73]

And, by the way, @zelmo1234, teens always had to tell their parents or get a waiver from a judge.

Like I said, it's really nothing.

On the list of things women's right advocates are fighting--this one is at the basement level. Because it affects virtually no one.

Actually, the judge waiver, if it had been used, which it wasn't because teens didn't want to go that route, offers what might be a life line to teen girls whose dads either fathered their babies or might beat them to death.

But, the kids didn't use it so it doesn't matter. If those MO kids want to abort and not tell their parents, there are now resources in MO that will help them with travel and expenses to states where it's legal for them to abort.

The only time a ruling like this might make a difference would be in a state where it's already permissable for teens to abort. In many states that allow abortions, teens must get their parent's approval, which, as I said is easy, because it's the parents who typically push them to abort.

The obvious problem is that you can't let everything fly because of a very small percentage of cases.

Any girl that was raped by a family member should be forced to go to the judge so that activity will stop and daddy/uncle/bro goes to jail. Then the child will get her exemption and she will get her help. Just giving her a pill means she will probably need another and another and another until she runs or worse.

Your solution sucks.

[BenjaminO]

Have you ever looked at the physical damage to babies when you kill them? It's pretty significant.

Not as significant as a life time of suffering.
But you don't care about that do you.
It's someone else's problem.

[BenjaminO]

So you mean that young girls should not be having sex. Maybe that is what the teachers should be selling instead of teaching them the alternatives that I won't mention, to save you having to deny that they do.

So why don't you clue us in as to how you plan to get teenagers to stop having sex. All the plans I've ever heard of didn't work.

[carolina73]

So why don't you clue us in as to how you plan to get teenagers to stop having sex. All the plans I've ever heard of didn't work.

You can't stop it but everything the progressives have done is causing it at a younger age and more frequently. They only make problems worse. Start teaching them morality again and stop telling them that wrong is okay.

[BenjaminO]

The obvious problem is that you can't let everything fly because of a very small percentage of cases.

Any girl that was raped by a family member should be forced to go to the judge so that activity will stop and daddy/uncle/bro goes to jail. Then the child will get her exemption and she will get her help. Just giving her a pill means she will probably need another and another and another until she runs or worse.

Your solution sucks.

Your "solution" is a fantasy.