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    Quote Originally Posted by Mini Me View Post
    That's to catch all the TAX CHEATS who also have off-shore bank havens to stash their wealth.
    Are you on any kind of medication for your delusions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The IRS recently sent out a message to crooks- asking them to please report their income and pay taxes.
    Can you say "Fair Tax"?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_FairTax_Book
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA View Post
    That would capture a lot of ill gotten gains into tax-world.
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    Government generates then sends you a W-2, or a 1099 but then you need to inform government about what’s documented on those forms.

    Government is the most inefficient and dysfunctional entity in America.
    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.“ - Benjamin Franklin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    No. The 87,000 isn't to catch the "off shore tax cheats" - whatever that means. It is to catch and intimidate those that Joe doesn't like - us in flyover country.
    You have no evidence for that. Fake lawyer talking out his ass again

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA View Post
    Fair Tax = Fair share.

    Warren Buffet will finally get his wish and pay the same rate as his secretary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    The IRS already has all your income tax data – so why do Americans still have to file their taxes?


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    Doing taxes in the U.S. is notoriously complicated and costly. And it gets even worse when there are delays and backlogs, making it especially hard to reach the Internal Revenue Service for assistance. But to me this raises an important question: Why should taxpayers have to navigate the tedious, costly tax filing system at all?

    The case for a ‘simple return’


    In 1985, President Ronald Reagan promised a “return-free” tax system in which half of all Americans would never fill out a tax return again. Under the framework, taxpayers with simple returns would automatically receive a refund or a letter detailing any tax owed. Taxpayers with more complicated returns would use the system in place today.

    In 2006, President Barack Obama’s chief economist, Austan Goolsbee, suggested a “simple return,” in which taxpayers would receive already completed tax forms for their review or correction. Goolsbee estimated his system would save taxpayers more than US$2 billion a year in tax preparation fees.

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    https://theconversation.com/the-irs-...r-taxes-175777
    Why? So that conservatives can still sidestep the system as best they can, DUH. Make it automatic and a lot of the legal (and legal) "creativity" disappears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slideman View Post
    You have no evidence for that. Fake lawyer talking out his ass again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Now_What View Post
    Why? So that conservatives can still sidestep the system as best they can, DUH. Make it automatic and a lot of the legal (and legal) "creativity" disappears.
    Conservatives are the only ones that "sidestep" the tax system?

    The verdict? Turns out Republicans have the bigger names—Jack Abramoff, Randy “Duke” Cunningham—but Democrats have the most tax scandals by a margin of 18 to 7.


    Tom Daschle... Charles Rangel... Nick Mavroules... Vincent Fumo... Joe Loeper... Frank gigliotti...


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-da...ost-tax-cheats
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