My life my fortune and my sacred honor

[Chris]

The reality is calling it a republic and insisting it is not a democracy is subtle right-wing propaganda preparing us for autocracy.
I see through your mask

Ditto calling it a democracy without mention of republic or the constitution that makes it so.

The problem is democracy is ambiguous. There's the abstract definition, which you keep citing. And then there are particular types under that class. Namely, if not others, direct democracy and constitutional republic.

What the many are insisting it's not is direct democracy.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Ditto calling it a democracy without mention of republic or the constitution that makes it so.

The problem is democracy is ambiguous. There's the abstract definition, which you keep citing. And then there are particular types under that class. Namely, if not others, direct democracy and constitutional republic.

What the many are insisting it's not is direct democracy.

Oinkocracy

If you put lipstick on a republic pig, it's still a porker. A democratic republic is a contradiction in terms; it's a extension to a spoiled and sheltered elite of another contradictory term, "the royal 'we'."

[zelmo1234]

Snob Rule
Exactly. The Founding Fodder believe that 75% of us, the people beneath them, were wild and mindless man-eating beasts.

I think I am going to nominate you for one of the Short bus awards. Bye the Bye it was those elite snobs that put everything they had on the line so you could be a free citizens instead of a subject,

You really need to start to learn to respect your betters and in your case that is a lot of people

[carolina73]

The reality is calling it a republic and insisting it is not a democracy is subtle right-wing propaganda preparing us for autocracy.
I see through your mask

There is no mask. I clearly stated that we were a Constitutional Republic in post #22.

Our Constitutions (Federal and states) set rules under which we govern. In the case of the USA we have independent states that are joined under a Federal Government that is limited only to the powers provided to it by the Constitution.

[Chris]

Oinkocracy

If you put lipstick on a republic pig, it's still a porker. A democratic republic is a contradiction in terms; it's a extension to a spoiled and sheltered elite of another contradictory term, "the royal 'we'."

I didn't argue our government is a good government.

[Chris]

There is no mask. I clearly stated that we were a Constitutional Republic in post #22.

Our Constitutions (Federal and states) set rules under which we govern. In the case of the USA we have independent states that are joined under a Federal Government that is limited only to the powers provided to it by the Constitution.

Is, by the Constitution, supposed to be so limited...

[countryboy]

Well you know if you drew a Venn diagram of democracy being one circle and Republic being another circle they would have an intersection and the United States would lie there.
I'm sure you can comprehend that.
As you surmise I never went to school.
School of hard knocks

Lol, you and Kamala love your Venn diagrams. But that still doesn't change the Constitution. Much to your chagrin, I'm sure.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

It doesn't say democracy.

[Ethereal]

I thought that this might help, The Pledge of allegiance

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all,"

The pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist.

[countryboy]

Ditto calling it a democracy without mention of republic or the constitution that makes it so.

The problem is democracy is ambiguous. There's the abstract definition, which you keep citing. And then there are particular types under that class. Namely, if not others, direct democracy and constitutional republic.

What the many are insisting it's not is direct democracy.

Democracy is a form of government, the democratic process is not. Our Constitution specifically guarantees a Republican form of government, with absolutely no mention of a democracy. Not sure why this is hard for libs.

[Chris]

Democracy is a form of government, the democratic process is not. Our Constitution specifically guarantees a Republican form of government, with absolutely no mention of a democracy. Not sure why this is hard for libs.

Because the Constitution defies progress.