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    Quote Originally Posted by slideman View Post
    The founders made provision for the Constitution to be amended so it is plain they did not intend for it to be kept in its original form.
    Why are the strict constructionists not strict when it comes to the second amendment? It was all about the militia and not about an individual right at all. Federalist papers.
    Of course the Constitution can be amended. We can also have a Convention of States. The Living Construction "theory" removes the need for either of those.

    SCOTUS explained the militia, to include the unorganized militia in Heller. Males between the age of 17-45 are part of the unorganized militia if they are not in active military service or part of the organized militia. Even if they don't know it. Even if they choose to not buy a pistol or a rifle,

    "Strict" constructionists are spot on with the 2nd Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Of course the Constitution can be amended. We can also have a Convention of States. The Living Construction "theory" removes the need for either of those.

    SCOTUS explained the militia, to include the unorganized militia in Heller. Males between the age of 17-45 are part of the unorganized militia if they are not in active military service or part of the organized militia. Even if they don't know it. Even if they choose to not buy a pistol or a rifle,

    "Strict" constructionists are spot on with the 2nd Amendment.
    Would anyone over 45 be banned from owning firearms as not part of the militia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Would anyone over 45 be banned from owning firearms as not part of the militia?
    No, the 2A is not dependent on the militia, it is a right of the people.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Would anyone over 45 be banned from owning firearms as not part of the militia?
    Oops. That’s a question some will answer in a clumsy manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    …"Strict" constructionists are spot on with the 2nd Amendment.
    I think you are confusing a textualist with a constructionist. Then there are originalists. Which one are you?
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 03-26-2023 at 02:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Would anyone over 45 be banned from owning firearms as not part of the militia?
    I suspect because the average life expectancy in the 18th century for the colonists was between 36 and 38 years old.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    *snickers*

    Well you might be disappointed with me fairly soon then if that's your perception. If it seems like I share mostly conservative-sounding views around here, that's because I make a deliberate effort to focus my conversation here on tPF mainly on those areas where we might agree or come close to agreeing at least. Not here to be antagonistic. I know this is a right wing forum and that, as such, I am tolerated more than welcome. Still, if there is a flaw to this approach to conversation, it's that it may give you a stilted impression of my worldview. Although I have indeed conservatized a bit over the years, I'm still basically a leftist in reality.

    Of course you are and that is OK.with me You just happen to be o e the does not exclude others that makes you special in my book

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    And now we channel Richard..................

    Get some rest is my advice.


    I think you would find that polly is pretty informed sh e might not see this gs the same way but she is not off the deep end and you can have some pretty good conversations if you just show some respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by slideman View Post
    The founders made provision for the Constitution to be amended so it is plain they did not intend for it to be kept in its original form.
    Why are the strict constructionists not strict when it comes to the second amendment? It was all about the militia and not about an individual right at all. Federalist papers.
    Well it would be the only time that the words the people did not mean individual people your definition ition goes against every one of the federalist paper argu.ents and high court rulings

    But you are correct you can change the constitution with amendments not just saying so or passing laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Would anyone over 45 be banned from owning firearms as not part of the militia?
    They wouldn't I suspect.
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