Lia Thomas Claims Teammates Fake Feminists

[IMPress Polly]

"...Their arguments, in order to exclude anybody in the trans category, you have to reduce women to reproductive capacity..."

Wrong. It's not about reproductive capacity, it's about chromosomes. Thomas does not have female chromosomes, therefore he is not a woman. Nothing he says will ever change that. He will always be a man.

Thomas, like 99% of men who pretend to be a woman, is just a mediocre male desperate for attention and validation.

There is indeed a world of difference between acknowledging the relevance of obvious physical differences between men and women on the one hand and reducing us to those differences on the other. Some conservatives do indeed seem to feel that women are more essentially wombs than people, but this hardly applies to the gender critical feminists that Lia Thomas is griping about.

[carolina73]

This guy's a male cross-dresser with no sense of pride whatsoever. And those who go along with this idiocy are either fools or acting politically.


If the money's right there'll be many more 'trans' men participating in women's sports.

Or just no women's sports because woman are going to be discouraged by having no fair chance to compete.

[Chris]

There is indeed a world of difference between acknowledging the relevance of obvious physical differences between men and women on the one hand and reducing us to those differences on the other. Some conservatives do indeed seem to feel that women are more essentially wombs than people, but this hardly applies to the gender critical feminists that Lia Thomas is griping about.

Some conservatives do indeed seem to feel that women are more essentially wombs than people

That seems to be more a liberal misinterpretation of a conservative view.

[carolina73]

There is indeed a world of difference between acknowledging the relevance of obvious physical differences between men and women on the one hand and reducing us to those differences on the other. Some conservatives do indeed seem to feel that women are more essentially wombs than people, but this hardly applies to the gender critical feminists that Lia Thomas is griping about.

And we are not just wieners!

[Chris]

IMPress Polly, you might be better off moving to TERK Island!

Why should lesbians sleep with men?

...Such is the message of Robyn Exton, CEO of lesbian dating app HER, mostly aimed at 20-to-30-somethings. Robyn is very enthusiastic about the cause of lesbianism for all. Last week, in honour of Lesbian Visibility Day, she wrote a combative statement on her business’s website, asserting that attempts to confine the category of lesbians to “only those assigned female at birth” involves a “twisted and erroneous” belief “about what being a lesbian can or cannot entail”. “The future of lesbian is trans”, she continued, before declaring: “we must all affirm trans and nonbinary lesbians… we must all become better informed and put in the work”. She concluded: “On Lesbian Visibility Day, let’s ensure that all lesbians are seen, celebrated, and embraced — regardless of their gender. There’s no such thing as a ‘real lesbian’.” Later, she sent out a message to all users to delete the HER app if they disagreed, and made a TikTok video to the same effect.

Based on an Ellen episode drawing on popular stereotypes about voracious lesbians stealing men’s wives, there’s a joke that whenever you recruit enough women to the sapphic cause, you win a toaster. Exton seems to think she can win a toaster for her preferred version of lesbianism by hurling insults at the unconvinced. If you fall into this category, she suggests, you are a “irrelevant has-been lez-bean”, a “fascist”, a “transphobic bigot full of hatred”, and a “sad, hateful clown”. As seduction techniques go, it’s a bold one.

By redrawing the maps of womanhood and manhood, so fundamental to human life in numerous ways, transactivists such as Exton have redrawn several other maps. One of these represents sexual orientations — heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual — once understood as involving distinctive patterns of attraction between the biological sexes by definition, but now no longer. Ignoring everything that we know about human sexuality, primary and secondary sex characteristics are now treated as the negligibly important physical wrapping for the irresistibly hot gender identities pulsing away within.

According to this demented sexual metaphysics, if a male identifies as a woman and is also attracted to women, he counts as a “trans lesbian” — which also means he is a lesbian, and you had better not object to him popping up in the app you just paid for. The head of Stonewall, Nancy Kelley, agrees; the difference between female and male “lesbians” is now treated by LGBTQ+ authority figures as no more important than the difference between Scottish and English ones....

[slackercruster]

I have to say that this is one subject that turns off more people on the left than I have seen before.
The use of trans to displace woman appears to be a big mistake by the progressives.

Working great so far!




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[donttread]

Lia Thomas, who last year broke the ass ceiling by becoming the first man to win the women's NCAA swimming championship, has recently decided that he is not satisfied to appropriate women's identity, but also, with it, the right to dictate what our interests are. Specifically, he said of his teammates in a recent interview:



His interviewer notably followed up by adding:



I was inspired to add a bit of my own commentary on this subject here after watching this segment of The Megyn Kelly Show (deal with it, tPF) addressing it:



A lot of good points are said there. Being the only feminist on this forum though, I felt compelled to respond to this ludicrous exercise in sexist reality reversal in my own words. In that connection, I offer that the point of feminism, as the term suggests, is the advancement of women. Therefore the definition of womanhood is absolutely crucial to the essence of feminism.

The interviewer is correct: these women are indeed in pain and that pain stems from finding themselves on the losing end of male privilege, yes. Where the interviewer's logic fails is in its separation of Lia Thomas from that male privilege because he is precisely the party exercising it here. It's not simply patriarchy in the abstract that's at work here, but in a very specific and clear form that has an agent. Lia Thomas is not a woman. That is the entire issue here. The occasional equivocation of his teammates on that matter is their only shortcoming, not their instinctive objection to his presence in athletic competitions designated specifically for women. Feminism is our movement for our interests as a sex. Women define what our interests are, not men. Men defining our interests for us is how you get patriarchal social systems.

I don't think there's any better way of wrapping this post up than by quoting the response of women's sports advocate Riley Gaines:

"I take issue with the idea that strong, brave women are fake feminists. We are fighting for our right to privacy, safety, and fairness, as well as the essence of Title IX rights. In this podcast, Lia Thomas attempted to gaslight women for feeling uncomfortable with men taking our spots on the podium, taking our titles, taking our scholarships, and taking away our opportunities. It's selfish, and it's wrong. I encourage women across America to join me in this fundamental fight for the right to be a woman."

@IMPress Polly What male privilege? What oppression? If modern day American men are oppressing women as a group then well we are not very good oppressors.
The group claiming current oppression lives longer than their supposed oppressors and they consume more health care . Women seriously outnumber men on college campuses, and suicide far less often than men and from a societal POV have a choice to work or stay home that men simply don't have. Women also tend be favored dramatically in the justice system.
How are women oppressed? The 83 cents on a dollar thing? That excludes key factors that dictate how much anyone makes such as profession. It's not like major employers have one scale for men and another for women.
What oppression still exist aa a group?
I do not mean this in a mean spirited way. I mean obviously I disagree with you, but my question is serious. In what areas are American women oppressed in 2023?

[Tahuyaman]

I suspect Thomas was an egotistical $#@! as a man and as a pretend woman…

I think he was just the opposite. I think he was very insecure and unhappy with being a mediocre male swimmer. He was more than likely hurt mentally by being irrelevant.

[slackercruster]

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[Peter1469]

RILEY GAINES URGES FEMALE ATHLETES TO REFUSE TO COMPETE AGAINST TRANS ATHLETES

Biological men are infiltrating women’s sports. And in order to make it stop, Riley Gaines proposed a simple solution: Female athletes have to boycott competitions against trans athletes.


“We have to have girls who, when the whistle blows, they don’t run, they don’t swim. They stand up on the block and they don’t go,” Gaines told Fox News.

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