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    If I may make suggestion to our pro-death members … get an internet that uses the google.
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    Well since I asked my liberal friends why they did not help this lady get to a state that would allow her to abort the baby, they have become very quiet.

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    To begin with making laws based on extreme emotional circumstances is inevitably bad law. Should we Ban all abortion over some horror stories?

    And I don't buy they can afford an abortion but can't travel out of State. Ever hear of a Bus?
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    Question. What is the difference between taking the life of the "unborn" child or allowing it to be born and then die. Isn't the end result the same? I.E. Dead Baby? Why is killing it early morally superior to allowing it to die after it was born?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    You believed the lie you wanted to hear.

    Again.

    “Abortion is legal in Florida until the fetus reaches a gestational age of 6 weeks. Thereafter, abortion is legal only if necessary to save the mother’s life, the pregnancy is the result of rape, incest, or human trafficking and the gestational age of the fetus is not more than 15 weeks, or the pregnancy has not progressed to the third trimester and two physicians certifySummary

    “Abortion is legal in Florida until the fetus reaches a gestational age of 6 weeks. Thereafter, abortion is legal only if necessary to save the mother’s life, the pregnancy is the result of rape, incest, or human trafficking and the gestational age of the fetus is not more than 15 weeks, or the pregnancy has not progressed to the third trimester and two physicians certify in writing that the fetus has a fatal fetal abnormality.”
    https://www.findlaw.com/state/florid...tion-laws.html
    The doctors were likely uncertain about termination in this case because there had been clinical trials involving the replacement of amniotic fluid that allow fetuses with this condition to survive. However the clinical trials had ended during the previous July. There was also one case where a baby born with this condition did survive. The doctors determined that there was too much potential risk to themselves if their certification were to be challenged. The bottom line is unless there is 100% certainty that the infant can't survive, Florida doctors will not terminate after 15 weeks.
    Florida doctors refused her an abortion after baby's deadly diagnosis - The Washington Post
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    I think politicians should make more medical decisions as they are so much more qualified than doctors and specialists about women and pregnancy difficulties. They are doing an excellent job with curriculum desicions in schools, and books and even college boards. I mean there is no end to what these politicians can do to save our world. Seems like now we TRUST big government to save us. Imagine that. I thought RayGun said government was THE problem. I learn so much here but it changes so often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    you mean like killing the unborn child?
    You can't really be that stupid.

    Question why could this women not get the abortion that she wanted?
    That's in the OP. Read first, comment afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenpe View Post
    I think politicians should make more medical decisions as they are so much more qualified than doctors and specialists about women and pregnancy difficulties. They are doing an excellent job with curriculum desicions in schools, and books and even college boards. I mean there is no end to what these politicians can do to save our world. Seems like now we TRUST big government to save us. Imagine that. I thought RayGun said government was THE problem. I learn so much here but it changes so often.
    DeSantis sure is. Florida is number 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Facts, they are such stubborn things.

    Actual law in Idaho:

    ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTIVES
    18-608. CERTAIN ABORTIONS PERMITTED — CONDITIONS AND GUIDELINES. (1) Abortions shall only be lawful if and when performed in a hospital or in a physician’s regular office or a clinic, which office or clinic is properly staffed and equipped for the performance of such procedures and respecting which the responsible physician or physicians have made satisfactory arrangements with one (1) or more acute care hospitals within reasonable proximity thereof providing for the prompt availability of hospital care as may be required due to complications or emergencies that might arise.
    (2) An abortion performed upon a woman who is in the second trimester of pregnancy shall only be lawful if the same is performed in a hospital.
    (3) An abortion performed upon a woman who is in the third trimester of pregnancy shall only be lawful if the same is performed in a hospital and, in the judgment of the attending physician, corroborated by a like opinion of a consulting physician concurring therewith, either is necessary for the preservation of the life of such woman or, if not performed, such pregnancy would terminate in birth or delivery of a fetus unable to survive. Third-trimester abortions undertaken for preservation of the life of a pregnant patient, as permitted by this subsection, shall, consistent with accepted medical practice and with the well-being and safety of such patient, be performed in a manner consistent with preservation of any reasonable potential for survival of a viable fetus.”


    https://legislature.idaho.gov/statut...h6/sect18-608/
    From your link, genius:

    How current is this law?






    Idaho Statutes and Constitutions are updated to the web July 1 following the legislative session.

    Idaho Statutes and Constitutions are current through the 2022 Legislative Session.

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    https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-con...tion/H0242.pdf

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