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    Abortion Rights Movement and Nazi Medical Ethics A Synergistic Relationship.

    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org...ocaust/2021-01

    Lessons for Health Professions Education

    Eugenics. As a scientifically and politically motivated attempt to improve humankind, eugenics existed in the first half of the 20th century in many countries, led by the United States.4 In Germany, eugenics was called racial hygiene and modeled on the American eugenics movement.5 When negative eugenics merged with German National Socialism, racism was medicalized to rid society of chronically ill people and others whose lives were considered unworthy, burdensome, and threatening to Aryan “hereditary health.” The first German eugenic initiative was legal coercive sterilization, which progressed to the notorious “euthanasia” (medically sanctioned murder) program that was a next step on the path to the systematic murder of millions of people.6 Students should learn this history, which informs current debates about care of the dying, the disabled, and people with minoritized racial and ethnic identities and about genetics and reproductive health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoisyBoy View Post
    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org...ocaust/2021-01

    Lessons for Health Professions Education

    Eugenics. As a scientifically and politically motivated attempt to improve humankind, eugenics existed in the first half of the 20th century in many countries, led by the United States.4 In Germany, eugenics was called racial hygiene and modeled on the American eugenics movement.5 When negative eugenics merged with German National Socialism, racism was medicalized to rid society of chronically ill people and others whose lives were considered unworthy, burdensome, and threatening to Aryan “hereditary health.” The first German eugenic initiative was legal coercive sterilization, which progressed to the notorious “euthanasia” (medically sanctioned murder) program that was a next step on the path to the systematic murder of millions of people.6 Students should learn this history, which informs current debates about care of the dying, the disabled, and people with minoritized racial and ethnic identities and about genetics and reproductive health care.

    Do you support allowing brothers and their biological sisters to wed and have babies?

    If you don't, you support a form of eugenics.

    Are you calling yourself a Nazi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Do you support allowing brothers and their biological sisters to wed and have babies?

    If you don't, you support a form of eugenics.

    Are you calling yourself a Nazi?
    WTH did that come from? In no way did my post say that. What I am saying is Nazi medical ethics and American eugenics and abortion rights movement have the same beginnings.

    pro choice are you? Just like a leftist to take the most extreme example and make a basis for your argument. And you are wrong about the brother/sister thing. That's just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoisyBoy View Post
    WTH did that come from? In no way did my post say that. What I am saying is Nazi medical ethics and American eugenics and abortion rights movement have the same beginnings.

    pro choice are you? Just like a leftist to take the most extreme example and make a basis for your argument. And you are wrong about the brother/sister thing. That's just silly.

    Yea that was just completely silly.

    You're right. The ideas of Dawson were used here by Progressives to advocate eugenics to eradicate those they saw as misfits, iow, those whose personhood they valued less. The Nazis borrowed eugenics from American Progressives to justify the Holocaust. The personhood basis of eugenics was then reimported here to argue for abortion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoisyBoy View Post
    WTH did that come from? In no way did my post say that. What I am saying is Nazi medical ethics and American eugenics and abortion rights movement have the same beginnings.

    pro choice are you? Just like a leftist to take the most extreme example and make a basis for your argument. And you are wrong about the brother/sister thing. That's just silly.
    Really?

    You support them marrying and breeding?

    Eeewww...
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    Incest taboo origins have been hypothesized to be found in both nature and nurture but trace back to prehistory.

    It has nothing to do with progressive scientific (lol) eugenics based erroneously on Dawson's misinterpretations of Darwin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoisyBoy View Post
    WTH did that come from? In no way did my post say that. What I am saying is Nazi medical ethics and American eugenics and abortion rights movement have the same beginnings.

    pro choice are you? Just like a leftist to take the most extreme example and make a basis for your argument. And you are wrong about the brother/sister thing. That's just silly.
    She demonstrates her extremism by over-the-top-rhetoric.
    Like it makes a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Really?

    You support them marrying and breeding?

    Eeewww...
    we suspect you do, however. Abortion cures every woman's 'ailment." So you shouldn't have an issue with incest.
    Gawd, yer a piece of bad apple pie
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Do you support allowing brothers and their biological sisters to wed and have babies?

    If you don't, you support a form of eugenics.

    Are you calling yourself a Nazi?
    This is really an absurd argument. One is to prevent strong genetic traits from surfacing within gene pools. The other is to rid the country or world of a certain group because Sanger thought them inferior.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Really?

    You support them marrying and breeding?

    Eeewww...
    What???? What have you been huffing? How did you go from eugenics to incest?
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