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    Huge Review Finds No Evidence for Gender Bias in Academic Science

    Huge Review Finds No Evidence for Gender Bias in Academic Science

    There is a prevailing narrative that academic science is rife with gender bias against women.


    “A vast literature… shows time after time, women in science are deemed to be inferior to men and are evaluated as less capable when performing similar or even identical work,” a 2017 article in Wired declared.


    “Researchers in recent years have found that women are less likely than men to be hired and promoted, and face greater barriers to getting their works published,” a piece in the New York Times reiterated in 2021.


    There is, however, evidence that contradicts the notion of omnipresent gender bias, although it doesn’t attract anywhere near the same amount of press coverage. So, what is the truth? Are modern academic institutions hubs for sexism, bastions for equality, or somewhere in between? To find out, a trio of researchers on opposing sides of the debate did something inspiring in this era of rampant polarization: They teamed up.

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    Rather than battle it out through separate studies in the scientific literature — effectively arguing past each other — the three academics instead chose to meld their opposing perspectives and collaborate on a sweeping review of the published data on gender bias in STEM academia, seeking to settle whether or not sexism remains a significant barrier for female researchers. The completed work, published late last month in the journal Psychological Science in the Public Interest, was the result of a 4.5-year effort, one filled with disagreements and debates, but always driven by a desire to discover the truth.


    “Throughout the years spent working on it, we tempered each other’s statements and abandoned irreconcilable points, so that what survived is a consensus document,” they wrote.


    Because the literature about women in science is vast, with thousands of published papers, the reviewers narrowed their focus to women eligible to compete for tenure-track positions in academic STEM fields. Specifically, they sought to reveal whether women have faced consistent gender bias since the year 2000. Their analysis centered around six areas:

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    Taken together, the findings dispel the narrative of overarching gender bias in modern academic science, the authors say. However, they noted that their findings “are very much rooted in the most recent decades and in no way minimize or deny the existence of gender bias in the past.”


    Going further, the reviewers rebuked writers, scholars, and public figures for lazily perpetuating the notion of widespread gender bias in academic science, perhaps because it conforms to their prior beliefs. “These claims rest on selectively chosen evidence and ignore important counter-evidence and sampling and methodological limitations,” they wrote.


    Besides perpetuating a falsehood, one key problem with promulgating the idea that sexism pervades academic science is that it may prevent women from pursuing careers at educational institutions. It also diverts attention away from what actually may be causing gender disparities in science. For example, the authors note that female researchers’ productivity and career advancement appear to be significantly hampered by child-rearing and family obligations, while this does not occur for male researchers.


    “If a key issue is that women’s careers are undermined by underlying systemic factors… perhaps we need to think more deeply about how academia can be made more flexible,” they wrote.


    Kahn, Ceci, and Willims concluded with a point we all would do well to remember: “As our own adversarial collaboration has taught us, we all need to remain open-minded regarding alternative views rather than prematurely assume that the science is settled.”

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    There was once a bias, but I think it's gone.

    Today's science careers are filled with women--and they do just as well as men.

    Actually, I think the bias has been gone for two or three decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    There was once a bias, but I think it's gone.

    Today's science careers are filled with women--and they do just as well as men.

    Actually, I think the bias has been gone for two or three decades.
    In the past there was a great deal of bias.
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    There are a lot more men in STEM fields. As usual, progressive kooks see a disparity and attribute it to bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    In the past there was a great deal of bias.

    There was when my mother was a teen and was not allowed to take advanced science classes, but today's professionals in science fields, biological, engineering, medical, research, are all populated with females.

    And, I see a lot of older female professionals on shows, so the bias has been fading, if not gone, for several years.

    But, and this is a big but...you get into communities like the one I live in and some of the teachers would still like women to be second class citizens--staying at home, barefoot and pregnant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    There are a lot more men in STEM fields. As usual, progressive kooks see a disparity and attribute it to bias.
    But, nobody is keeping females out of those fields of study.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    But, nobody is keeping females out of those fields of study.
    Right, but that doesn't stop progressive kooks from claiming a bias exists. In fact, pampered Western women are raised on a delusional narrative of oppression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Right, but that doesn't stop progressive kooks from claiming a bias exists. In fact, pampered Western women are raised on a delusional narrative of oppression.
    Okay maybe.

    But, there's nothing wrong with pampering Western women.

    It should be done more often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    There was once a bias, but I think it's gone.

    Today's science careers are filled with women--and they do just as well as men.

    Actually, I think the bias has been gone for two or three decades.


    I suspect the bias was a two way street with very few women interested in such studies at the time.

    The point being numbers are not always proof of discrimination. It is a false argument that continues to be promoted even today although more often with race than gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    There are a lot more men in STEM fields. As usual, progressive kooks see a disparity and attribute it to bias.
    And the modern result is that girls get promoted over boys in all thing with the exception of trans in women's sports it would seem. One area where I believe women have every right to carve out their own exclusive club.
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