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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    The S-400 is about 20 years old and has not proven successful in reality. The Chinese, Indian and Turkish militaries are dropping them much as they are abandoning other Soviet weaponry.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_missile_system

    The S-500 has been in service for a couple of years but, AFAIK, has not been combat tested.

    Based on the success rates of their 'invincible' hypersonic missiles, and 'unbeatable' army, 'unstoppable' T-14 ARMATA and 'indestructible' robot tanks and the fact that they have not been used leads me to believe that they are equally craptastic in performance.
    Russian weapons for export are not the same as what they use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Russian weapons for export are not the same as what they use.
    Perhaps, but the T-14 ARMATA is completely craptastic:

    "Russian troops receiving T-14 Armata main battle tanks are hesitant to accept the deliveries because of their "poor condition," according to a new intelligence assessment."

    https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soliders-rejecting-t-14-armata-battle-tanks-quality-1776441
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Perhaps, but the T-14 ARMATA is completely craptastic:

    "Russian troops receiving T-14 Armata main battle tanks are hesitant to accept the deliveries because of their "poor condition," according to a new intelligence assessment."

    https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soliders-rejecting-t-14-armata-battle-tanks-quality-1776441
    Russia funds its major weapons systems development with foreign sales. (Seems ass-backwards to me.) They didn't get much interest in the T-14, so the program is underfunded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Perhaps, but the T-14 ARMATA is completely craptastic:

    "Russian troops receiving T-14 Armata main battle tanks are hesitant to accept the deliveries because of their "poor condition," according to a new intelligence assessment."

    https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soliders-rejecting-t-14-armata-battle-tanks-quality-1776441
    Yeah but they equipped them with a $hitter, some points need to be given for that imo.....

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    I've heard that they have made rear window defrosters standard equipment on all Soviet trucks.

    It allows soldiers to keep their hands warm when the push them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenpe View Post
    Way to go! Lets have us some WAR!

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    I forgot to add, there is scant evidence that the ARMATA even exists.

    The T-95 turned out to be a scam.

    Leaving out the T-14, every other Soviet tank has an engine going back to the 1930’s.

    The claimed ARMATA engine is a reverse engineered WWII PANZER engine that was plagued with reliability issues.
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    What move has the West made that Putin has not proclaimed "You better not or else!"?

    Putin's threats have all the power of Obama's line in the sand.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    So you agree ... Jimmuh Cahtuh got us involved in Afghanistan, Billy Jeff Clinton abandoned the Iraqis when the rose up ... and also obligated the US to defend Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nukes and Vladimir Vladimirovich pinkie swearing not to invade Ukraine.
    A presidential handshake agreement is not binding.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    A presidential handshake agreement is not binding.
    Maybe on that president. Certainly not the United States.
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