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Thread: Russia warns West sending F-16s to Ukraine ‘carries enormous risks’: TASS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Biden is whatever he thinks he needs to be. Granted, most of our representatives are like that.
    Biden is whatever others think he needs to be. And if you're a Representative, that may not be an issue......you need to represent those who elected you to office. But Biden is our Executive now.......and for him to be such a spineless coward is intolerable to this voter.
    People who enter the US without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the US legally

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    Tens of billions of dollars we don't have. Massive military support to include F-16s. Did We the People sign up for this, why again exactly are we putting so much effort into this?
    People who enter the US without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the US legally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I think it’s a bad idea.
    It is escalation.
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    Better Than Patriots? Russia’s S-350 Vityaz Downs A Ukrainian Aircraft While Operating In Automatic Mode

    The Russian S-350 Vityaz anti-aircraft missile system shot down Ukrainian aircraft in the special operation zone in a fully automatic mode without an operator’s participation. Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported that this mode of operation was tested in combat conditions for the first time in the world.

    “The Vityaz anti-aircraft missile system in the Special Military operation zone for the first time in the world in combat conditions performed fully automatic, without an operator’s participation, detection, tracking, and defeat of Ukrainian air targets. The system’s missiles shot down several Ukraine combat aircraft and drones,” the agency’s interlocutor said.

    He added that the combat crew, at the same time, only controlled the operation of the complex.

    An unnamed source accessed by RIA Novosti explained, “The automatic mode was implemented based on the principle that a person does not cancel the decisions of the artificial intelligence elements of the complex within the framework of the emerging air combat situation, that is, the operator simply did not interfere in the operation of the complex, thus confirming the operation algorithm chosen by the machine.”

    The interlocutor stated that “Vityaz” simultaneously worked in active and passive radar modes. This method essentially increases the noise immunity of the complex and its ability to detect and classify targets. The development comes months after the system was first deployed along the frontlines.

    In August 2022, visual evidence that surfaced on social media suggested that the S-350 Vityaz air defense system was deployed at an airbase less than 40 miles from the Ukrainian border days after Ukraine started pounding Russian military facilities in Crimea, including the infamous attack on the Saki Air Base in southern Crimea.

    The S-350 Vityaz air defense system elements were first spotted in a video released by the Russian Ministry of Defense (RuMoD). While the said video aimed to showcase the close air support activities of its Su-25 Frogfoot aircraft at an undisclosed airbase close to Ukraine, it was the S-350 that attracted the most eyeballs.


    The appearance of the S-350’s components is what’s most intriguing. A 50N6A fire-control radar, a 96L6-TsP acquisition radar, as well as two missile launchers—which could be examples of the 50P6 transporter-erector-launcher (TELs) and the strikingly similar 50P6T launcher/loader vehicle were identified by defense analyst Guy Plopsky, who tweets as @GuyPlopsky.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Do you really think familiarity with a fighter jet- 4 months training, is the good enough to actually fight the jet in combat? With 5G air defense on the ground?
    They are not learning how to fly from scratch.

    Think of it this way … if you can drive a left hand drive CORVETTE, could you learn how to drive a right hand drive JAGUAR in 4 months?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    They are not learning how to fly from scratch.

    Think of it this way … if you can drive a left hand drive CORVETTE, could you learn how to drive a right hand drive JAGUAR in 4 months?
    Can you accurately and consistently employ the weapons systems under extreme pressure after a 4-month course? Same with the Western tanks. Driving is one thing. Gunnery is a very different thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Better Than Patriots? Russia’s S-350 Vityaz Downs A Ukrainian Aircraft While Operating In Automatic Mode



    The Russian S-350 Vityaz anti-aircraft missile system shot down Ukrainian aircraft in the special operation zone in a fully automatic mode without an operator’s participation. Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported that this mode of operation was tested in combat conditions for the first time in the world.

    “The Vityaz anti-aircraft missile system in the Special Military operation zone for the first time in the world in combat conditions performed fully automatic, without an operator’s participation, detection, tracking, and defeat of Ukrainian air targets. The system’s missiles shot down several Ukraine combat aircraft and drones,” the agency’s interlocutor said.

    He added that the combat crew, at the same time, only controlled the operation of the complex.

    An unnamed source accessed by RIA Novosti explained, “The automatic mode was implemented based on the principle that a person does not cancel the decisions of the artificial intelligence elements of the complex within the framework of the emerging air combat situation, that is, the operator simply did not interfere in the operation of the complex, thus confirming the operation algorithm chosen by the machine.”

    The interlocutor stated that “Vityaz” simultaneously worked in active and passive radar modes. This method essentially increases the noise immunity of the complex and its ability to detect and classify targets. The development comes months after the system was first deployed along the frontlines.

    In August 2022, visual evidence that surfaced on social media suggested that the S-350 Vityaz air defense system was deployed at an airbase less than 40 miles from the Ukrainian border days after Ukraine started pounding Russian military facilities in Crimea, including the infamous attack on the Saki Air Base in southern Crimea.

    The S-350 Vityaz air defense system elements were first spotted in a video released by the Russian Ministry of Defense (RuMoD). While the said video aimed to showcase the close air support activities of its Su-25 Frogfoot aircraft at an undisclosed airbase close to Ukraine, it was the S-350 that attracted the most eyeballs.


    The appearance of the S-350’s components is what’s most intriguing. A 50N6A fire-control radar, a 96L6-TsP acquisition radar, as well as two missile launchers—which could be examples of the 50P6 transporter-erector-launcher (TELs) and the strikingly similar 50P6T launcher/loader vehicle were identified by defense analyst Guy Plopsky, who tweets as @GuyPlopsky.




    A Ukrainian plane, currently, is a Soviet plane.

    The F16 tore up the Iraqi AF (Soviet) in the skies of the Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    A Ukrainian plane, currently, is a Soviet plane.

    The F16 tore up the Iraqi AF (Soviet) in the skies of the Middle East.
    F-16s in the Middle East were doing CAS missions in uncontested skies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slideman View Post
    Biden is a centrist to the right of the leftists in his own party. Hardly a Marxist.
    That's a laugher. Biden is Obama's stooge.Biden has to look to his right to see Castro.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Tens of billions of dollars we don't have. Massive military support to include F-16s. Did We the People sign up for this, why again exactly are we putting so much effort into this?
    Yet we are cutting military spending in the most crucial areas.



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