Levin on President Biden Debt LIES!

[RMNIXON]

You also might learn something about the Constitution if you care?

Or fast forward to 7:20 for the Lies part of it all.

[mamooth]

Republicans are _still_ pretending to care about debt, after not caring about it at all during the Trump and Bush admins?

Given the decades of practice they have at lying, they have no excuse for sucking so badly at it.

[zelmo1234]

Republicans are _still_ pretending to care about debt, after not caring about it at all during the Trump and Bush admins?

Given the decades of practice they have at lying, they have no excuse for sucking so badly at it.

I this case you are not wrong, there is plenty of blame to go around when it comes to the National Debt. I don't see either party being grown up about it and acknowledging that we have a spending problem.

So I say full speed ahead until we become insolvent. that then maybe they will be forced to deal with the problem.

[RMNIXON]

Republicans are _still_ pretending to care about debt, after not caring about it at all during the Trump and Bush admins?

Given the decades of practice they have at lying, they have no excuse for sucking so badly at it.

I have been rather consistent on the issue as have others in this forum. Care to comment on the actual substance of the OP?


Lets start with Biden claiming to have reduced the Debt by Trillions when all that happened is the Congress stopped authorizing massive COVID related programs. Biden is still spending more than any President in history from either party and that is documented by the numbers in the video.

[mamooth]

I have been rather consistent on the issue as have others in this forum.

Well, yeah, consistentely not caring about debt whenever Republicans run it up.

Care to comment on the actual substance of the OP?

Sure. Levin just kind of lies-by-omission. Why do you people accept such bad propaganda at face value?

Let's talk about what happened after the Trump tax cuts and _before_ the pandemic, so that you can't use that as an excuse.

Middle class incomes rose a paltry 1% adjusted for inflation.

The deficit increased from $585 billion to $1 trillion.

85% of the tax cuts were spent on dividends and stock buybacks. There was no investment boom.

GDP growth was no different than it was under Obama.

Job growth declined by 20%.

The Trump tax cuts did nothing except balloon the deficit. If it wasn't for the Trump and Bush tax cuts, the USA would be running a balanced budget now. It's not a spending problem, it's a revenue problem.

[zelmo1234]

Well, yeah, consistentely not caring about debt whenever Republicans run it up.



Sure. Levin just kind of lies-by-omission. Why do you people accept such bad propaganda at face value?

Let's talk about what happened after the Trump tax cuts and _before_ the pandemic, so that you can't use that as an excuse.

Middle class incomes rose a paltry 1% adjusted for inflation.

The deficit increased from $585 billion to $1 trillion.

85% of the tax cuts were spent on dividends and stock buybacks. There was no investment boom.

GDP growth was no different than it was under Obama.

Job growth declined by 20%.

The Trump tax cuts did nothing except balloon the deficit. If it wasn't for the Trump and Bush tax cuts, the USA would be running a balanced budget now. It's not a spending problem, it's a revenue problem.

Here of course you are wrong. As the revenue has always increased after Tax Cuts.

But it is your belief that the Rich and Business owners actually take money out of their pockets to pay for the tax increases. That is not True.

I was able to expand with the Trump tax Cuts, and now we have 20 more workers. But if you take those away, I will go into sheltering. And part of that will be a decrease in my levels of participation in benefits. Wage Freezes, and Layoff's, and Price increases where available.

But I promise you one thing! I will pay less in taxes that I did before the increase, and my profits will remain stable. Look at the chart that I have posted time and time again, and you will see that in the first full year after tax cuts, Government Revenue has increased every time.

[zelmo1234]

Well, yeah, consistentely not caring about debt whenever Republicans run it up.



Sure. Levin just kind of lies-by-omission. Why do you people accept such bad propaganda at face value?

Let's talk about what happened after the Trump tax cuts and _before_ the pandemic, so that you can't use that as an excuse.

Middle class incomes rose a paltry 1% adjusted for inflation.

The deficit increased from $585 billion to $1 trillion.

85% of the tax cuts were spent on dividends and stock buybacks. There was no investment boom.

GDP growth was no different than it was under Obama.

Job growth declined by 20%.

The Trump tax cuts did nothing except balloon the deficit. If it wasn't for the Trump and Bush tax cuts, the USA would be running a balanced budget now. It's not a spending problem, it's a revenue problem.

President Obama had the worst GDP growth of any President in the history of the USA and he should have had GREAT growth in GDP as he took over after the housing and stock market collapse.

He also Double the National Debt of the nation, So he Double the Debt that was accumulated by all the other Presidents before him combined, That being said you are correct the GOP is not serious about cutting spending.

Thus we need to just get to insolvency as fast as possible and then begin the long process of recovering from it. Then Both parties will have to stop lying

[RMNIXON]

Well, yeah, consistentely not caring about debt whenever Republicans run it up.

Are you making a personal accusation?

If so than back it up or STFU!

[Peter1469]

Originally Posted by mamooth
Well, yeah, consistentely not caring about debt whenever Republicans run it up.

Are you making a personal accusation?

If so than back it up or STFU!

That one doesn't merit a rational response 99% of the time, despite what handwringers, pearl clutches, and self loathers say.

[carolina73]

Republicans are _still_ pretending to care about debt, after not caring about it at all during the Trump and Bush admins?

Given the decades of practice they have at lying, they have no excuse for sucking so badly at it.

Really?
Obama averaged 1.2 trillion in annual deficits. Double Bush.

Trump average 0.8 for his first three years. 2020 was a COVID spending passed by Congress in a veto proof majority.

Biden. Skip 2021 because that was still COVID but 2022 was 1.4 trillion.


So what you talking about Willis?