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    The FBI just got caught in yet more massive, outrageous FISA abuses

    Heads need to roll. The FBI needs to be defunded and reorganized.

    The FBI just got caught in yet more massive, outrageous FISA abuses

    Like the casino gambling scene in “Casablanca,” the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court is “shocked, shocked” that the Federal Bureau of Investigation continues to ravage the privacy of vast numbers of Americans.

    For each American the FISA court permitted the FBI to target, the bureau illicitly surveilled almost 1,000 additional Americans.

    The court’s just-revealed ruling signals the FBI presumed any American suspected of supporting the Jan. 6, 2021, protests forfeited their constitutional rights.

    FISA was enacted in 1978 to curb the rampant illegal political spying exposed during the Nixon administration.

    After the 9/11 attacks, the George W. Bush administration decided the president was entitled to order the National Security Agency to vacuum up Americans’ and foreigners’ emails and other data without a warrant.

    Federal judges disagreed, and the result was a 2008 FISA reform that authorized the feds to continue commandeering vast amounts of data.
    But under Section 702 of that law, the FBI was permitted to conduct warrantless searches of that stash for Americans’ data only to seek foreign intelligence information or evidence of crime.

    The heavily redacted 2022 opinion finally released Friday revealed the FBI conducted 278,000 improper searches of Americans in 2020 and early 2021.

    Incredibly, the bureau conducted roughly 3.4 million warrantless searches of Americans in 2021 via Section 702.

    The day before, Thursday, an FBI whistleblower revealed in congressional testimony that FBI headquarters pressured agents to treat anyone who attended the Jan. 6 protests as a criminal suspect.

    The FISA court opinion reveals the FBI wrongfully cast a far broader net.
    Roughly 2,000 protesters supporting President Donald Trump (including an unknown number of undercover agents and informants) entered the Capitol that day.
    But an FBI analyst exploited FISA to unjustifiably conduct searches on 23,132 Americans citizens “to find evidence of possible foreign influence, although the analyst conducting the queries had no indications of foreign influence,” according to FISA Chief Judge Rudolph Contreras.

    The court ruling did not disclose the standards (if any) the FBI used for its warrantless Jan. 6 searches. Did Twitter retweets suffice?

    ***

    Perhaps FISA should be renamed the “Trust Me, Chumps!” Surveillance Act.

    The FISA court has perpetually dismally failed to defend Americans’ constitutional rights.

    Washington must finally admit that there is no secret “doing God’s work” clause in the Constitution that entitles FBI agents to trample Americans’ privacy and liberty.[

    It gets worse. The FBI exploited FISA to target 19,000 donors to the campaign of an unnamed candidate who challenged an incumbent member of Congress.
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    These people need to lose their pensions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    These people need to lose their pensions.
    Bare minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    These people need to lose their pensions.
    I am not sure if there is a way to do that under current law. But I could be wrong.

    In general you vest in retirement rites after 5 years. If you don't get your 30 yrs (20 for law enforcement) you get 5% per year deducted from your retirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Heads need to roll. The FBI needs to be defunded and reorganized.

    The FBI just got caught in yet more massive, outrageous FISA abuses

    Like the casino gambling scene in “Casablanca,” the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court is “shocked, shocked” that the Federal Bureau of Investigation continues to ravage the privacy of vast numbers of Americans.

    For each American the FISA court permitted the FBI to target, the bureau illicitly surveilled almost 1,000 additional Americans.

    The court’s just-revealed ruling signals the FBI presumed any American suspected of supporting the Jan. 6, 2021, protests forfeited their constitutional rights.

    FISA was enacted in 1978 to curb the rampant illegal political spying exposed during the Nixon administration.

    After the 9/11 attacks, the George W. Bush administration decided the president was entitled to order the National Security Agency to vacuum up Americans’ and foreigners’ emails and other data without a warrant.

    Federal judges disagreed, and the result was a 2008 FISA reform that authorized the feds to continue commandeering vast amounts of data.
    But under Section 702 of that law, the FBI was permitted to conduct warrantless searches of that stash for Americans’ data only to seek foreign intelligence information or evidence of crime.

    The heavily redacted 2022 opinion finally released Friday revealed the FBI conducted 278,000 improper searches of Americans in 2020 and early 2021.

    Incredibly, the bureau conducted roughly 3.4 million warrantless searches of Americans in 2021 via Section 702.

    The day before, Thursday, an FBI whistleblower revealed in congressional testimony that FBI headquarters pressured agents to treat anyone who attended the Jan. 6 protests as a criminal suspect.

    The FISA court opinion reveals the FBI wrongfully cast a far broader net.
    Roughly 2,000 protesters supporting President Donald Trump (including an unknown number of undercover agents and informants) entered the Capitol that day.
    But an FBI analyst exploited FISA to unjustifiably conduct searches on 23,132 Americans citizens “to find evidence of possible foreign influence, although the analyst conducting the queries had no indications of foreign influence,” according to FISA Chief Judge Rudolph Contreras.

    The court ruling did not disclose the standards (if any) the FBI used for its warrantless Jan. 6 searches. Did Twitter retweets suffice?

    ***

    Perhaps FISA should be renamed the “Trust Me, Chumps!” Surveillance Act.

    The FISA court has perpetually dismally failed to defend Americans’ constitutional rights.

    Washington must finally admit that there is no secret “doing God’s work” clause in the Constitution that entitles FBI agents to trample Americans’ privacy and liberty.[

    It gets worse. The FBI exploited FISA to target 19,000 donors to the campaign of an unnamed candidate who challenged an incumbent member of Congress.
    This is just another example of why I don't believe, in the least, that the FBI's visit to Elise Ketch mother's home was anything remotely altruistic.

    The resources at the FBI's fingertips is frightening, especially considering it seems to be in the wrong (FBI) hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    This is just another example of why I don't believe, in the least, that the FBI's visit to Elise Ketch mother's home was anything remotely altruistic.

    The resources at the FBI's fingertips is frightening, especially considering it seems to be in the wrong (FBI) hands.
    A related problem is the recent FBI trend in using its SWAT teams to arrest its political opponents, often with a tip to CNN so they can get it on the "news.". That only increases the risk of bloodshed. It isn't needed. Just ask them to come downtown to the office.
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    If the FIB is unionized.Which I don't know, but if they are, they'll get those pensions if you and I have to pay for them out of our own pockets.........Wait a Minute.


    Welp I guess they are.Why am I not surprised?

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    Are they not working on FISA renewal right now?
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Are they not working on FISA renewal right now?
    Back in February they were.
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    The IRS had its budget slashed over its war against conservative PACs. Time for the FBI to get that treatment.

    Jim Jordan Calls on Republicans to Limit the Power of the “Corrupt” FBI

    Rep. Jim Jordan has called on Republicans to use the power of the purse to limit what the FBI can do following Special Counsel John Durham’s report confirming that the “corrupt” agency had targeted Trump throughout his presidency.




    Jordan told host Maria Bartiromo on Fox News, “In the end, money always gets people’s attention … and so what we’re going to have to do is say, ‘Hey, FBI, you can’t use federal tax dollars, you can’t use the American tax dollars for this kind of activity.’ We’ve got to limit how they spend the money, maybe even limit them,” he said.


    The committee took numerous actions this month, according to Breitbart:

    It released a report on the origins of the statement signed by 51 former intelligence officials falsely claiming the New York Post’s Hunter Biden’s laptop story was Russian disinformation, finding that it was created after then-Biden campaign adviser Antony Blinken reached out to former Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell, who drafted the statement along with former CIA official Marc Polymeropoulos.

    It also called in former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to testify about their involvement in the statement. Brennan testified on May 11, before Durham’s report came out, but Clapper testified on May 17, after the release of Durham’s report on May 15.

    According to Durham’s report, both Brennan and Clapper were aware as early as July 2016 that Hillary Clinton planned to “vilify” Donald Trump with false links to Russia.


    The Weaponization Committee’s report on the statement on the Hunter Biden laptop found that Brennan signed the statement being fully aware it was designed to help Biden in the 2020 election and that Clapper even made edits before it was published.




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