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    Guess I'm Voting RFK

    Those of you who've been following my posts know that I've been looking for a candidate other than President Biden to support for the presidency. That search has now reached an end. It looks like I'll be voting for...drum roll please...Robert F. Kennedy.

    I'm not an RFK enthusiast by any means, he's just the only moderate candidate I can find who checks off the key boxes that matter the most to me right now. As people here doubtless know by now, women's issues are my top consideration in each election, followed by economics (on which I favor a populist positions). On a range of other social issues (e.g. crime, border policy), I might be considered right-leaning these days. I am a feminist, but I'm not infected with the woke mind virus.

    In that connection, the deciding factor for me was a recent article published by Newsweek comparing the three Democratic candidates -- whom I've only recently begun to consider in the light of the Republican options frankly sucking ass -- on six notable 2024 issues. What really sold me was the fact that Kennedy is both pro-choice and trans-skeptical. That makes him by definition the most feminist-friendly candidate in the race in my book. I also agreed with his criticisms of Biden's border policies and found his calls for a new infrastructure package and for breaking up the big banks to be acceptably left-leaning. On the other hand, I strongly disagree with his hostility toward Ukraine and wouldn't trust him with my health. Those latter items, however, are somewhat lower voting priorities for me right now. The candidate who's economic program I like the best is actually the progressive candidate in the race, Marianne Williamson, who has somewhat impressed me lately with her diagnosis of the mental state of this country. I kind of wish there were a candidate with RFK's view of women's issues and Williamson's take on economics in this race, but I guess I'm asking for too much candidate customization there. I like them both better than Biden.

    Anyway, of course Joe Biden will win the nomination, there's no question about that. But the polling so far suggests that the party establishment shouldn't just be writing off these "fringe candidates" as insignificant, considering that RFK is consisting polling at around 20% support among Democratic primary voters these days and Williamson at 8% (i.e. much better than her 2020 performance) despite being effectively invisible, with Biden dropping from 70% support last month to 60% in the most recent CNN poll. This data indicates that Biden is an unusually weak incumbent. In particular, the polling lately finds Biden to be especially weak among Democratic-leaning women, younger Americans, and independents, and that these groups form the bulk of his rivals' supporters. The Democratic Party has scheduled no debates and disenfranchised New Hampshire entirely in order to try and guarantee Biden renomination, but the persistence of such high levels of opposition despite the weight of incumbency and such a thoroughly and blatantly rigged process indicates a surprisingly strong protest vote could materialize in the primaries. That's what I'm hoping for. I aim to, with my vote, indicate that I find Biden an unacceptable incumbent and also the general sort of direction I want the Democratic Party to move in going forward.

    So there you have it. You are edified.
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    I certainly hope he continues to do well enough that the left media must pay attention. He will have plenty to say that will make Biden and even some GOP candidates uncomfortable!
    Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is NOT my problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Those of you who've been following my posts know that I've been looking for a candidate other than President Biden to support for the presidency. That search has now reached an end. It looks like I'll be voting for...drum roll please...Robert F. Kennedy.

    I'm not an RFK enthusiast by any means, he's just the only moderate candidate I can find who checks off the key boxes that matter the most to me right now. As people here doubtless know by now, women's issues are my top consideration in each election, followed by economics (on which I favor a populist positions). On a range of other social issues (e.g. crime, border policy), I might be considered right-leaning these days. I am a feminist, but I'm not infected with the woke mind virus.

    In that connection, the deciding factor for me was a recent article published by Newsweek comparing the three Democratic candidates -- whom I've only recently begun to consider in the light of the Republican options frankly sucking ass -- on six notable 2024 issues. What really sold me was the fact that Kennedy is both pro-choice and trans-skeptical. That makes him by definition the most feminist-friendly candidate in the race. I also agreed with his criticisms of Biden's border policies and found his calls for a new infrastructure package and for breaking up the big banks to be acceptably left-leaning. On the other hand, I strongly disagree with his hostility toward Ukraine and wouldn't trust him with my health. Those latter items, however, are somewhat lower voting priorities for me right now. The candidate who's economic program I like the best is actually the progressive candidate in the race, Marianne Williamson, who has somewhat impressed me lately with her diagnosis of the mental state of this country recently. I kind of wish there were a candidate with RFK's view of women's issues and Williamson's take on economics in this race, but I guess I'm asking for too much candidate customization there.

    Anyway, of course Joe Biden will win the nomination, there's no question about that. But the polling so far suggests that Democrats shouldn't just be writing off these "fringe candidates" as insignificant, considering that RFK is consisting polling at around 20% support among Democratic primary voters these days and Williamson at 8% (i.e. much better than her 2020 performance), with Biden enjoying the support of just 60% of Democrats compared to 70% a month ago. This data indicates that Biden is an unusually weak incumbent. In particular, the polling lately finds Biden to be especially weak among women, younger Americans, and independents and that these groups form the bulk of his rivals' supporters. The Democratic Party has scheduled no debates and disenfranchised New Hampshire entirely in order to try and guarantee Biden renomination, but the persistence of such high levels of opposition despite the weight of incumbency and such a rigged process indicates a surprisingly strong protest vote could materialize in the primaries. That's what I'm hoping for. I aim to, with my vote, indicate that I find Biden an unacceptable incumbent and also the general sort of direction I want the Democratic Party to move in going forward.

    So there you have it. You are edified.
    Great post. I’m no RFK fan by any stretch, but your opinions are well thought out, honest and you aren’t obedient to one party or ideology. Well done.

    If it does indeed come down to the Biden/Trump rematch, will you vote for either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Now_What View Post
    Great post. I’m no RFK fan by any stretch, but your opinions are well thought out, honest and you aren’t obedient to one party or ideology. Well done.

    If it does indeed come down to the Biden/Trump rematch, will you vote for either?
    The only option in my consideration there is Biden, but you and other party loyalists will have your work cut out for you convincing me to do something other than just sitting the general out.

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    I don't know what his platform is. The democrat party won't allow him to tell everyone. The last thing they want is for the voters to be informed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Those of you who've been following my posts know that I've been looking for a candidate other than President Biden to support for the presidency. That search has now reached an end. It looks like I'll be voting for...drum roll please...Robert F. Kennedy.

    I'm not an RFK enthusiast by any means, he's just the only moderate candidate I can find who checks off the key boxes that matter the most to me right now. As people here doubtless know by now, women's issues are my top consideration in each election, followed by economics (on which I favor a populist positions). On a range of other social issues (e.g. crime, border policy), I might be considered right-leaning these days. I am a feminist, but I'm not infected with the woke mind virus.

    In that connection, the deciding factor for me was a recent article published by Newsweek comparing the three Democratic candidates -- whom I've only recently begun to consider in the light of the Republican options frankly sucking ass -- on six notable 2024 issues. What really sold me was the fact that Kennedy is both pro-choice and trans-skeptical. That makes him by definition the most feminist-friendly candidate in the race in my book. I also agreed with his criticisms of Biden's border policies and found his calls for a new infrastructure package and for breaking up the big banks to be acceptably left-leaning. On the other hand, I strongly disagree with his hostility toward Ukraine and wouldn't trust him with my health. Those latter items, however, are somewhat lower voting priorities for me right now. The candidate who's economic program I like the best is actually the progressive candidate in the race, Marianne Williamson, who has somewhat impressed me lately with her diagnosis of the mental state of this country recently. I kind of wish there were a candidate with RFK's view of women's issues and Williamson's take on economics in this race, but I guess I'm asking for too much candidate customization there. I like them both better than Biden.

    Anyway, of course Joe Biden will win the nomination, there's no question about that. But the polling so far suggests that the party establishment shouldn't just be writing off these "fringe candidates" as insignificant, considering that RFK is consisting polling at around 20% support among Democratic primary voters these days and Williamson at 8% (i.e. much better than her 2020 performance) despite being effectively invisible, with Biden dropping from 70% support last month to 60% in the most recent CNN poll. This data indicates that Biden is an unusually weak incumbent. In particular, the polling lately finds Biden to be especially weak among Democratic-leaning women, younger Americans, and independents, and that these groups form the bulk of his rivals' supporters. The Democratic Party has scheduled no debates and disenfranchised New Hampshire entirely in order to try and guarantee Biden renomination, but the persistence of such high levels of opposition despite the weight of incumbency and such a thoroughly and blatantly rigged process indicates a surprisingly strong protest vote could materialize in the primaries. That's what I'm hoping for. I aim to, with my vote, indicate that I find Biden an unacceptable incumbent and also the general sort of direction I want the Democratic Party to move in going forward.

    So there you have it. You are edified.
    RFK Jr. is not this moderate you claimed he is. He very much a hard left wing type. He would be a horrible president. You might have a point if you said he’s no worse than what we have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Booman View Post
    I don't know what his platform is. The democrat party won't allow him to tell everyone. The last thing they want is for the voters to be informed.
    I recommend checking out the Newsweek article I linked to in the OP for a quick primer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    RFK Jr. is not this moderate you claimed he is. He very much a hard left wing type. He would be a horrible president. You might have a point if you said he’s no worse than what we have now.
    Your idea of "hard left" is very different from most people's, and certainly from mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Your idea of "hard left" is very different from most people's, and certainly from mine.
    It’s not. RFK Jr is very much a hard left winger. He just separated himself a bit with the COVID shot issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Your idea of "hard left" is very different from most people's, and certainly from mine.
    He is not hard left he is not as moderate as his Dad and Uncle but clearly to the right of Biden and Obama

    I will likely be voting for him in the MI primary

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