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    But Wolf just disproved his point by dividing the world into Manicheans and non-Manicheans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    But Wolf just disproved his point by dividing the world into Manicheans and non-Manicheans.
    At least he was able to see the fault in his utopian plan of "Get your money for nothin and your chicks for free" fallacy.

    I was so moved that I was ready to start singing "I'd like to teach the world to sing" aloud.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Thank you for making my point and fulfilling my prediction.

    In the real world, millions of what you would probably classify as "Team 1" people work hard, pay their taxes, contribute to private charities, etc., and some of them are doubtless people who are your neighbors and co-workers - people you say hello to and maybe even like. Just as there are plenty of "Team 2" folks - people who may check all the ideological boxes and say all the right things about the issues - who are more of a drain on the public coffers than a dozen able-bodied welfare cases.

    The nation, let alone the world, is not divided neatly into two distinct populations - the sheep and the goats, the forces of good vs. the forces of evil, the Klingon Empire vs. the Federation. I call that view political Manichaeism. Some on this forum appear to be operating under the mistaken assumption that because another member supports something they oppose, or because that member opposes something they support, that all that other member's views and opinions fall neatly into predictable place.
    Then, pay it out of your own pocket and stay the hell out of mine.
    I've never taken a government handout. I know the cost on the backside.
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    As has just been ably demonstrated, even a thread about what people can do in order to conduct more civil discussions can turn very quickly into the usual exercise in playing the labeling and assumption game.
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    Labeling and assuming like Manicheans vs non-Manicheans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    As has just been ably demonstrated, even a thread about what people can do in order to conduct more civil discussions can turn very quickly into the usual exercise in playing the labeling and assumption game.
    Quote Originally Posted by jes'fuchinwitcha View Post
    … that this forum was taking place on FaceTime, and everyone was being polite, respectful and friendly. And listening to one another.

    Weird!!
    I actually was dreaming it, it wasn’t a rhetorical discussion opener. But as you point out, the dream wasn’t very long…

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    obviously, you weren't there...............
    How much attention does this kid need?


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Booman View Post
    How much attention does this kid need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    At least he was able to see the fault in his utopian plan of "Get your money for nothin and your chicks for free" fallacy.

    No! Please don't!
    I was so moved that I was ready to start singing "I'd like to teach the world to sing" aloud.

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    I had a dream;actually a nightmare; That the whole world had gone CRAZY!
    I think it has started.

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