I had a dream…

[jes'fuchinwitcha]

I had a dream;actually a nightmare; That the whole world had gone CRAZY!
I think it has started.

According to the history books it's always been this way...

[donttread]

… that this forum was taking place on FaceTime, and everyone was being polite, respectful and friendly. And listening to one another.

Weird!!

Did you win lotto too?

[jes'fuchinwitcha]

Did you win lotto too?

I think I did but musta spent all before I woke up!

[Just AnotherPerson]

The disagreement comes at whose expense does our security come from.

Team 1 - wants communal living for their security. (large government supporters)
Team 2 - wants maximized independent living. (my team)

Team 1 needs Team 2 to contribute to them.
Team 2 has no need for Team 1

When Team 1 decides that they can create their own communal life style without government then we can all get along. 82 million voters can certainly have their own insurances, left wing schools, sex change operations...

Team 2 just has to learn to let Team 1 sin, mutilate and kill each other.

That realization is where the National Divorce comes from. We don't want to have Team 1s costs and crimes migrating over.

I don't think all of the left wants those things. It's our leaders and propagandists who are pushing these ideals. The dems who actually want those kind of things are probably fringe. The media just makes it look like that's the opinion of the left but it's not. If you look careful enough you will see that this has been perpetrated upon us by leaders of both parties even the Trump administration. They pit us against one another so that we wont see the truth. We get caught in ideologies and arguments over them while missing what our reps are doing behind the scenes.

[Peter1469]

It is not controversial to say that people generally fall into two camps. One believes government can solve more of our problems. The other doesn't.

[carolina73]

Singers run in my family.

Usually because they are being chased.

[countryboy]

How much attention does this kid need?

Yes.

[carolina73]

I don't think all of the left wants those things. It's our leaders and propagandists who are pushing these ideals. The dems who actually want those kind of things are probably fringe. The media just makes it look like that's the opinion of the left but it's not. If you look careful enough you will see that this has been perpetrated upon us by leaders of both parties even the Trump administration. They pit us against one another so that we wont see the truth. We get caught in ideologies and arguments over them while missing what our reps are doing behind the scenes.

There is no confusion on my behalf. Government is filled with wolves in sheep's clothing. The foolish thing America did was giving everyone the right to vote. We have people vote base on how much they promise to give them, how handsome or beautiful they are, their speech patterns, based on what the television tells them...and the common what's the best thing for ME personally.

We have people being told it is your duty to vote despite not even knowing who they are voting for.

Then they complain about what they get.

My favorite example is down here in SC, the Democrat primary for US Senator was won by Alvin Green. The Democrat voters thought he was Al Green the singer (not even from our state). He was actually awaiting trial for rape (later reduced to sexual battery). He never made a campaign speech.

[Just AnotherPerson]

There is no confusion on my behalf. Government is filled with wolves in sheep's clothing. The foolish thing America did was giving everyone the right to vote. We have people vote base on how much they promise to give them, how handsome or beautiful they are, their speech patterns, based on what the television tells them...and the common what's the best thing for ME personally.

We have people being told it is your duty to vote despite not even knowing who they are voting for.

Then they complain about what they get.

My favorite example is down here in SC, the Democrat primary for US Senator was won by Alvin Green. The Democrat voters thought he was Al Green the singer (not even from our state). He was actually awaiting trial for rape (later reduced to sexual battery). He never made a campaign speech.

I think the first mistake is thinking that our votes count.

[jes'fuchinwitcha]

I think the first mistake is thinking that our votes count.

There’s always not voting - maybe that would work better?

Probably the least appealing option is to get actively involved in the whole messy process…