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    ↓(3) Vivek Ramaswamy on Unpacking the 'Woke' Phenomenon - YouTube

    I pity the fool who tries to debate him!


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    being woke refers to waking up to
    Invisible alleged societal injustices
    based on genetically inherited
    attributes race sex and sexual
    orientation
    and further it creates a hierarchy based
    on these genetic attributes to say that
    you're either an oppressor or you're a
    member of an oppressed class which
    creates these invisible relationships
    that creates a social hierarchy and what
    they say is we need to turn that social
    hierarchy upside down or at least evenly
    at least even It Out by using any means
    necessary
    not just through government
    but even through the private sector even
    through our schools and even through our
    economy itself including the use of
    quota systems based on race gender and
    sexual orientation
    to correct for those
    alleged societal injustices that is what
    it means to be woke...

    ...what's wrong with
    this woke movement

    there's a lot that's wrong with it but
    first and most importantly it creates
    division in our country
    ...

    ... it equates the color of your
    skin your race with the content of ideas
    that you're allowed to have that is
    wrong it is anti-American and it is
    fracturing our country to a Breaking
    Point
    here's the other thing it does
    is it creates a culture of fear that
    replaces our culture of free speech
    ...



    I doubt mini listened to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    being woke refers to waking up to
    Invisible alleged societal injustices
    based on genetically inherited
    attributes race sex and sexual
    orientation
    and further it creates a hierarchy based
    on these genetic attributes to say that
    you're either an oppressor or you're a
    member of an oppressed class which
    creates these invisible relationships
    that creates a social hierarchy and what
    they say is we need to turn that social
    hierarchy upside down or at least evenly
    at least even It Out by using any means
    necessary
    not just through government
    but even through the private sector even
    through our schools and even through our
    economy itself including the use of
    quota systems based on race gender and
    sexual orientation
    to correct for those
    alleged societal injustices that is what
    it means to be woke...

    ...what's wrong with
    this woke movement

    there's a lot that's wrong with it but
    first and most importantly it creates
    division in our country
    ...

    ... it equates the color of your
    skin your race with the content of ideas
    that you're allowed to have that is
    wrong it is anti-American and it is
    fracturing our country to a Breaking
    Point
    here's the other thing it does
    is it creates a culture of fear that
    replaces our culture of free speech
    ...



    I doubt mini listened to it.
    That's not my definition of woke. I do not accept his definition, I mean, who the hell is he after all to be changing the meaning of words?

    My definition of woke is not asleep.

    To function in the world, it is far more useful to be woke than unwoke.

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    What's weird is he is a Republican!
    Geez, he's too smart to be a Rethug! LOL!
    But the bar has been so lowered with Trump, so he stands a good chance.

    Being smart will be considered a threat to theRethugs! LMFAO!

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    Vivek Ramaswamy, a political newcomer and former pharmaceutical executive, describes himself as a nationalist who believes that America needs to rebuild its sense of civic pride.
    "I will unapologetically embrace and advance the ideals that this nation was founded on," Ramaswamy said in a conversation with The NPR Politics Podcast. "That is distinct from an opposite movement in this country, which increasingly wishes to apologize for a nation founded on those ideals, to apologize or moderate free speech or meritocracy or the rule of law evenly applied, or the idea that citizens can be trusted to sort out their differences on questions like climate change or racial equity."
    The NPR Politics Podcast

    NPR Politics Podcast with GOP presidential hopeful Vivek Ramaswamy










    "Maybe you would classify me as a nationalist," he said. "I think it's a label I'm willing to wear. I don't think that that has to be a bad word. As long as it's a nationalism built around the ideals that set a nation into motion, that can actually unite us as a country."
    Here are some key takeaways from the conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity.


    Interview Highlights

    Born and raised in Ohio to parents who emigrated from India, Ramaswamy says seeking the presidency is about reviving a sense of national identity.
    I'm not looking at this as building my own career. I'm looking at a need in our country and a job that needs to be done that I see very few people stepping up to actually deliver, which is to answer what it even means to be an American today — to revive our missing national identity, especially in the next generation of Americans.

    We have completely lost our sense of civic pride, civic identity, civic duty, what it means to be a citizen of this nation. We have lost all sense of that. And I think a lot of our economic struggles and our foreign policy struggles start from that loss of American identity, that loss of civic pride. And so the reason I'm running for president is I do have a vision of what it means to be a citizen of this country. I've lived the full arc of the American dream.

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    He rejects the notion that "diversity is our strength" and believes that society has become too focused on race and sexual identity.
    The thing about American identity that's beautiful to me is that it calls upon our distinctive humanity. The thing that makes us a human being rather than an animal is the fact that we can embrace ideals. I think that this alternative worldview of identity — grounded not in the ideals that we share in common, but rather in the genetic attributes we inherit on the day we're born — causes us to see ourselves as less than human, as just the sum total of those genetic attributes. And I just believe that — for us as human beings, for us as Americans — there is more to us.
    The most interesting part of us is not our gender identity or the shade of melanin that we have on a given day. It is the set of values that unite us together as a people. And so I grew up into a generation where I was taught — we were all taught, I think — to believe that diversity is our strength. I reject that vision. I don't think our diversity is our strength. I think our strength is what unites us across that diversity. That is not America to me. And it's the America I see sometimes today. But it's not the America I know. It's not the America that I learned to pledge allegiance to as a kid.
    Ramaswamy acknowledges that racist policies have existed at times in American history and he's "open to discussing" what role the government should play in addressing enduring social and racial inequality.
    You'd have to have your head in the sand to read our history and not understand that there have been many points in our national history when we have been less than perfect and living up to our ideals. I mean, we had slavery in this country, right? We had even a period after slavery in the Reconstruction Era where voting rights weren't fully secured for Black Americans, for women, until, you know, that was constitutionally ordained in the later amendment. So, of course. I mean, this is obvious. I don't think there's an American today who believes these things to be false. I think that we all agree on this.





    However, I think that at some point we're going to have to decide how we move on as a nation. And I think something peculiar has happened in the last few years in particular — it's when we get closest to the promised land that we become even more vehement in our claims that somehow we're systemically racist and misogynistic and homophobic and transphobic, right?
    If you went back to 1860, if you went back to 1960 and then fast forwarded to a state of affairs today where no matter what your skin color is, who you marry, if you marry, whatever you choose to wear, whether you're a man or a woman, you can still vote in this country. You can still enjoy civil rights in this country. They would say we have reached the promised land.

    He says as a practicing Hindu, he shares a set of Judeo-Christian values with evangelical voters.
    I'm not here to convince you that I'm a Christian because I'm not. But what I am here to convince you of is the truth that we still share those same Judeo-Christian values in common. And I live my life accordingly.
    I was raised in a two-parent household with the focus on education, with a focus on God, with a nuclear family, as the unit of governance that mattered most to us. That showed us that the love of family opens you, opens your heart up to the love of God. And we raise our two children, my wife and I do, in the same way. We live our lives according to Christian values.
    And I'm not running to be somebody's pastor. I'm running to be the president. But I'm running to be a president who recognizes that we are one nation under God, that recognizes the Judeo-Christian values on which this country was founded. Values that I also deeply share.

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    I can stand up for those values without anybody accusing me of being a Christian nationalist or whatever labels one might use. I think that that actually puts me in a better position to represent the values that undergird this country, including Judeo-Christian values that we share in common better than someone who's shy about it or feels pressure to apologize for it, because it's not popular in our culture to be a Christian.
    What I tell people is that actually I think I can make it cool to revive those values, those Christian values, family values in our culture again, because even as a religious Hindu, we grew up subscribing to those same values grounded in what it means to be a member of a family, a father and a household.

    He acknowledges that President Biden was lawfully elected, but he is upset about information censored by social media companies ahead of the election.
    I think that in the technical sense of that word, [Joe Biden is] obviously the lawfully elected president.

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    Facebook And Twitter Limit Sharing 'New York Post' Story About Joe Biden


    I'm deeply bothered by the Hunter Biden laptop story suppression that really was in the name of suppressing misinformation, actually created misinformation across the news media. I have a lot of issues with the suppression of information by social media companies and internet compan

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    Quote Originally Posted by jes'fuchinwitcha View Post
    That's not my definition of woke. I do not accept his definition, I mean, who the hell is he after all to be changing the meaning of words?

    My definition of woke is not asleep.

    To function in the world, it is far more useful to be woke than unwoke.

    Argue with mini, he posted it. Me, I don't care what your weird definition is.
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    Vivek Ramaswamy, a political newcomer and former pharmaceutical executive, describes himself as a nationalist who believes that America needs to rebuild its sense of civic pride.
    Well, the Reeps won't vote for him if he makes sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mini Me View Post
    I pity the fool who tries to debate him!

    I find it rather entertaining watching you own yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Argue with mini, he posted it. Me, I don't care what your weird definition is.
    Runner...

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    He is also making a priority out of fighting Government Corruption like our current DOJ/FBI structure.
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