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    The Russian rebel army began the liberation of Russia from the fascist regime. (1) The front line in the Belgorod region was shelled by a new Russian military formation, the purpose of which is to liberate the Russian people from the Kremlin fascists who peacefully seized power in Russia, just as it was in Germany . Putin, who imagined himself a great historian, did not take into account a very important historical fact - all wars ended in the defeat of the countries that undertook them. Here, fascist Russia, following fascist Germany, will once again demonstrate this law of historical science.


    1. The ghost of Hitler haunts Europe. 04/25/18. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/38049.html


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    Zee Vussian peoples and they bossman Blab'Mir Putin only sighed as family members were dragged away Gestapo style , yes?
    I'm yo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Bahshi View Post
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    ... Putin, who imagined himself a great historian, did not take into account a very important historical fact - all wars ended in the defeat of the countries that undertook them...


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    Modern world as we know it today shaped due to successful wars. Your whole core argument is founded on a lie . No matter how many times you will dress a lie or falsehood as a historical fact it is still a lie. Thousands successful wars in human history cannot be written off just on a wimp of a political hack. Humans would have abounded waging wars long time ago if as you claim aggression always loose. Ridiculous claim, total absurd!
    Whoever paying you for your drivel, paying you to much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    Modern world as we know it today shaped due to successful wars. Your whole core argument is founded on a lie . No matter how many times you will dress a lie or falsehood as a historical fact it is still a lie. Thousands successful wars in human history cannot be written off just on a wimp of a political hack. Humans would have abounded waging wars long time ago if as you claim aggression always loose. Ridiculous claim, total absurd!
    Whoever paying you for your drivel, paying you to much!
    OK. give a specific example of a war that would not end in the defeat of the aggressor in order to refute me. Thank you. And as for the payment, do not judge for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Bahshi View Post
    OK. give a specific example of a war that would not end in the defeat of the aggressor in order to refute me. Thank you. And as for the payment, do not judge for yourself.
    Just from the top of my mind:
    - USA war for independence
    - Russo-Japan war of 1905
    - Soviet- Finish winter war.
    But there are literally thousands examples in any history book.
    As I sad before, if what you claim were true, humans wouldn't be warring through all of our history. Greatest Empires in history were created through conquest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    Just from the top of my mind:
    - USA war for independence
    - Russo-Japan war of 1905
    - Soviet- Finish winter war.
    But there are literally thousands examples in any history book.
    As I sad before, if what you claim were true, humans wouldn't be warring through all of our history. Greatest Empires in history were created through conquest.
    The American War of Independence is a war of liberation, just like the war in India with Great Britain. As for the Finnish war, Russia did not achieve its goal of returning Finland to the USSR, leaving hundreds of thousands of corpses in Finnish soil.All empires known in history collapsed after being defeated in the wars of liberation. There is now only the Russian Empire, which is on the way to extinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Bahshi View Post
    The American War of Independence is a war of liberation, just like the war in India with Great Britain. As for the Finnish war, Russia did not achieve its goal of returning Finland to the USSR, leaving hundreds of thousands of corpses in Finnish soil.All empires known in history collapsed after being defeated in the wars of liberation. There is now only the Russian Empire, which is on the way to extinction.
    So, now semantics and strawman coming forward!
    "No, it was "war of liberation", It was a "just" war or some such malarkey, so it shouldn't count." There is always two sides to every story/war. One man's freedom fighter- another terrorist. But, war is a war and in 99% of times it has a clear defined winner. Your claim, that it is always side wich being attacked is beyond stupid.

    Soviet Finnish war ended in Soviet victory, Finland signed peace treaty on Soviet terms, USSR sized lands. Your claim of SU having a goal of returning whole Finland is false as well, read up on the matter, it is an established fact that soviets wanted to move border from its second largest city.
    No amount of lives or material is considered in an achieving of victory, it is measured by one side achieving its goals and another side capitulating.
    So your remarks of Soviets soldiers lost is a moot point. Yes it wasn't pretty, but it doesn't make Finland a victor just because Soviet lost more men achieving its goals, then Finns defending and losing territory.

    I see you're completely ignored my example of Russo-Japan war of 1905. Another lapse in history knowledge perhaps??

    BTW, do you think British Empire became great by sailing around the world and asking nicely??
    You do realize that every war has a starting date and the end?? Every great Empire in history had plenty successful wars of aggression! Your mental gymnastics about most of them(great Empires) not being around is not a prove of anything. In some distant future there would be no planet Earth anymore, would it mean by your standards that it never existed ??

    As to your naked hatred towards Russia - who hurt you?? Anyway, there is no Russian Empire, I live in Russian Federation. Let me assure you, it will be her long after you are gone and forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    Just from the top of my mind:
    - USA war for independence
    - Russo-Japan war of 1905
    - Soviet- Finish winter war.
    But there are literally thousands examples in any history book.
    As I sad before, if what you claim were true, humans wouldn't be warring through all of our history. Greatest Empires in history were created through conquest.
    That "would no still be doing it" argument fails. Hell we still have people pushing Communism and Socialism that always fail.

    And Finland got their land back from Russia and ousted the Reds. So the war was merely dormant.

    Japan emerged as a great power out of the Russo-Japan War that settled nothing and eventually had to be resolved by the US in WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    And Finland got their land back from Russia and ousted the Reds. So the war was merely dormant.
    Actually, until this day they did't! In red - territory ceded to Soviet Union as a result of 1939 winter war. Finnish_areas_ceded_in_1940.png


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    Japan emerged as a great power out of the Russo-Japan War that settled nothing and eventually had to be resolved by the US in WWII.
    Yes Japan pulled a Pearl-Harbor 0.9 on Russia. Without a deaclaration of war they've launched a surprise night attack with destroyers on a major Russian naval base in Port-Arhur.

    As a result of war they won every land battle, Russia lost 2 of it's 3 fleets and ceded some eastern territories.

    Roosevelt brokered a peace deal between two nations in Portsmouth and got a Nobel Peace Prize for that. Russia will return territories only after the end of WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    Actually, until this day they did't! Attachment 57895




    Yes Japan pulled a Pearl-Harbor 0.9 on Russia. Without a deaclaration of war they've launched a surprise night attack with destroyers on a major Russian naval base in Port-Arhur.

    As a result of war they won every land battle, Russia lost 2 of it's 3 fleets and ceded some eastern territories.

    Roosevelt brokered a peace deal between two nations in Portsmouth and got a Nobel Peace Prize for that. Russia will return territories only after the end of WWII.
    I'm not trying to attack Russia as a whole and its history, but I perceive what you are doing is looking for a way to justify Putin's actions in Ukraine. But they are indefensible. Putin was basically doing it because he thought he could.

    Russians should also be unhappy. If they feared NATO then they now have NATO even closer. Anything other than a total defeat of Ukraine makes them very tight with the USA and NATO. Putin does not care about the starving in his own country, so he does not care about any Russian speaking Ukrainians in Donbas.

    Russia has all the raw materials and intelligence to become a world economic power. Instead it is trapped in a criminal organization of Putin and his friends. IF Russia did not have nukes then it would be another Brazil. Now it will be a shunned country by most of the world.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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