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    Toyota debuts hydrogen-fueled Corolla race car...

    Toyota debuts hydrogen-fueled Corolla race car...


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    In a sprawling circuit near Mount Fuji, a humble Corolla running on liquid hydrogen has made its racing debut, part of a move to bring the futuristic technology into the racing world and to demonstrate Toyota’s resolve to develop green vehicles.


    Toyota Chairman Akio Toyoda, resplendent in a fire-resistant racing uniform, was all smiles as he prepared to buzz around the circuit in the hydrogen-fueled Corolla.


    “This is a world first for a liquid hydrogen car to race. We hope it will offer another option in the fight against global warming. To bring everyone smiles, I want to go one lap, even one second, more,” said Toyoda, a former CEO of Toyota, grandson of the automaker’s founder and a licensed race driver himself.


    The hydrogen Corolla race car won’t be turning up at your dealer anytime soon. The Super Taikyu 24-hour race at Fuji Speedway was just a test for the technology, Toyota officials said.


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    Hydrogen is likely the direction that Toyota is banking on.

    They already have a production vehicle on the market in selected areas. It has all of the wonderful Zero emissions, even better than electric. And none of the wait time for refueling

    2022 Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell Vehicle | Innovation is Power

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    Good for them. Toyota, along with a number of Asian and European auto makers, have been pursuing hydrogen fuel cell electric (FCEV) technology, which might prove ultimately more practical than battery electric vehicle (BEV) technology. In fuel cell technology, a process known as reverse electrolysis takes place, in which hydrogen reacts with oxygen in the fuel cell. The hydrogen comes from one or more tanks built into the FCEV, while the oxygen comes from the ambient air. The byproduct is just water vapor. The electricity generated in the fuel cell of a hydrogen engine can take two routes, depending on the energy demand. It either flows to the electric motor and powers the FCEV directly or it charges a battery, which stores the energy until it’s needed for the engine. Hydrogen vehicles can also take advantage of regenerative braking.
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    Yes what Dr Who Said. Better than I could have!!

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    It seems that everyone is on board but the USA on hydrogen as the future.

    They still have performance problems and the main source of hydrogen is refined natural gas, but electricity comes from burning natural gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    Hydrogen is likely the direction that Toyota is banking on.

    They already have a production vehicle on the market in selected areas. It has all of the wonderful Zero emissions, even better than electric. And none of the wait time for refueling

    2022 Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell Vehicle | Innovation is Power
    The only down side is the lack of hydrogen fuel stations, which currently keeps the ppg of hydrogen very high. However, when you think about it, hydrogen is the most abundant chemical substance in the universe, constituting roughly 75% of all normal matter. Unfortunately, most of our hydrogen production is a byproduct of fossil fuels, which is environmentally bad. However, we can make hydrogen from water through electrolysis. It works even better with salt water but in terms of using sea water, it produces toxic and corrosive chlorine ions. Still, the amount of energy needed to generate hydrogen from water current exceeds the energy you could produce from that hydrogen. We need far more research into cheap and efficient means of generating hydrogen from water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    It seems that everyone is on board but the USA on hydrogen as the future.

    They still have performance problems and the main source of hydrogen is refined natural gas, but electricity comes from burning natural gas.




    It also flies in the face of the electric fuel stations being promoted and funded by Government at all levels. And if it turns out the costs for hydrogen are reasonable that goes against the Climate Change agenda to get most people out of individual cars and forced into public transportation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The only down side is the lack of hydrogen fuel stations, which currently keeps the ppg of hydrogen very high. However, when you think about it, hydrogen is the most abundant chemical substance in the universe, constituting roughly 75% of all normal matter. Unfortunately, most of our hydrogen production is a byproduct of fossil fuels, which is environmentally bad. However, we can make hydrogen from water through electrolysis. It works even better with salt water but in terms of using sea water, it produces toxic and corrosive chlorine ions. Still, the amount of energy needed to generate hydrogen from water current exceeds the energy you could produce from that hydrogen. We need far more research into cheap and efficient means of generating hydrogen from water.
    The other problem is performance. It works well on level ground but it produces like a lawnmower engine going up the hwy ramp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    The other problem is performance. It works well on level ground but it produces like a lawnmower engine going up the hwy ramp.
    That sounds more like an internal combustion engine. If the FCEV has a battery that can boost power on demand, then it should have no issues scaling hills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    That sounds more like an internal combustion engine. If the FCEV has a battery that can boost power on demand, then it should have no issues scaling hills.
    Your talking about making a double the price EV over fossil fuels and then adding hydrogen cell technology to it. Plus adding thousand of lbs to the already pokey hydrogen car.
    I actually already went through the same question.

    Plus the addition of Li batteries to a hydrogen tank is going to create huge safety concerns. You garage will not burn down anymore. You will join Elon Musk in orbit.
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