stjames1_53 (06-07-2023)
The thread both honored the greatest of generations and criticized the generation you support today. IT wasn't a cheap shot....it was an expensive shot and hit the nail on the f'n head. Take Standing Wolf for a drink and remind him of Dday, ask if today's youth could have pulled it off. Ask...as if he'd know.
stjames1_53 (06-07-2023)
stjames1_53 (06-07-2023)
This is why this place if fckkdd up at times. A few have used any excuse to attack people they dont even know in a thread to honor our grandfathers and few fathers (still alive) from a time in history when America came together in many ways to thwart evil men. You have no idea what young men will do when they may be called. But if it puffs you up to think "we are men, we aint soy boys, we are bad ass, they are $#@!" then whatever flips your skirt a little higher.......
I am going to raise a few hackles here and say the honorific "Greatest Generation" should also be shared with the veterans (both sides) with the soldiers who fought and died in the War Between The States. Half of all battle deaths in this country from its founding to the Afghanistan debacle occurred during that war. While we certainly wouldn't have wanted to be among those troops storming the beaches of Normandy they don't hold a candle to those boys, again on both sides, fighting at the Battle of Gettysburg. Approximately 4000 Americans died at Normandy, ten times that number died at Gettysburg (between 41,000 and 50,000). The bravery of Americans jumping off those Higgins boats and running into what one friend described at a death machine is matched by Americans lining up in lines, marching toward your enemy and hoping a round doesn't hit you.
Keep these numbers in mind
Civil War Deaths: 620,000
WW2 Deaths: 416,000
Battle of Gettysburg: Between 41,000 and 50,000
Invasion of Normandy: 4000
This is no way intended to denigrate those valiant soldiers in WW2 but merely to put into perspective the two battles and a question of why The Battle Of Gettysburg is not honored the same way.
BTW, I allegedly have an ancestor who fought on the side of the Union in the Civil War. I hope that isn't true!
Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.
― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
Section31 (06-07-2023)
Ransom (06-07-2023)
I very deliberately don't mention names. I am of the opinion that to do so would constitute "calling out" another member. If I have a criticism of how or what someone has posted, I will, if I think there's one chance in a hundred that it will have any effect, confront them about it directly.
I also don't criticize, insult or make fun of one member in a post directed to another, as we see so often - with two or three members posting sequentially, appearing to be trying to outdo one another in describing how stupid, clueless or just wrong someone is. That's just junior high playground b.s., and entirely too much of it goes on around here.
Pointing out a bad habit or tendency of certain folks on the board is not out of bounds, nor is it "lecturing", "pedantic" or "acting like you're superior" - all reactions that I've heard in the past, mostly from people whose bad habits or tendencies are being pointed out. Wanting the discussion that goes on here to be better, more grownup and thoughtful, should be everyone's goal. I understand that not everyone wants or would welcome that - more's the pity.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
Cletus (06-07-2023)
Captdon (06-07-2023)