Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
Yes, you could easily assert that. What then? Nothing. You haven't answrered the question. Does it seem reasonable to suggest that absent a god, we simply abandon ourselves to meaningless chaos? NO. Are you asking for a reason? No one said we should.

So, human beings give all things meaning. That's the ciruclar argument he's referring to.

No one mentioned perfect truth, perfect morality etc. whatever those might be.
You are demanding an answer to a question predicated on the existence of God. No answer, not so predicated, will satisfy you.

Yes, human beings have brains that reason and find meaning whether they are creating abstractions like gods or concepts of perfection or whether it is a determination on how best to treat one another.

No one had to mention perfect truth or perfect morality - this isn't our first rodeo on this topic.