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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I forwarded your post to a friend of mine in the governor's office. Her email reply (on her non-governmental email): "Tell that idiot that she doesn't know what she's talking about, she's wrong on all counts."
    That's so rude. How dare someone question her expert knowledge on such a wide range of subjects!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA View Post
    That's so rude. How dare someone question her expert knowledge on such a wide range of subjects!
    I think this person can outdrink both of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    Lovely things, those solar farms. Not.

    Not only trashing the aesthetics of the area, but the environmental impact is also well known.

    https://solareis.anl.gov/guide/envir...y%20or%20death.
    I thought the idea was to not destroy green areas that absorb carbon based gasses and produce oxygen? Solar farms do the opposite.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Amazon has announced another massive investment in the state of Ohio...
    I will like them more when they invest in clean coal and natural gas baseload facilities that matter.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Bezos knows what he's doing. He knows the subsidies he'll get will be enormous.

    I think it's interesting that the article cites a beneficial tax base. That's probably a lie. The solar farms are most likely exempt from property taxes and will be required to make PILOT payments that are pennies on the dollar.

    Plus, construction is quick, and while they'll like locals to build roads, establish drainage and the like, they'll use specialized crews to erect the panels--not local yokels.

    Then they'll sell renewable energy credits (RECs) and tell the community that they're selling energy from the solar farm to specific REC buyers. It's a scam. Get ready for higher electricity rates.
    Solar is a scam. It is more expensive energy and only works with subsidies.

    Somewhere along the way someone gets screwed and it is not these investors like Bezos. He won't operate. He will take the subsidies and bail out. In a few years there will be no Bezos name associated with the solar farm.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I think this person can outdrink both of us.
    Well, my limit is two Sam Adams Oktoberfest Amber brews so I'll give her that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    I thought the idea was to not destroy green areas that absorb carbon based gasses and produce oxygen? Solar farms do the opposite.
    Check out how beautiful they leave the land

    https://wncmagazine.com/feature/evergreen_solar_farm
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I forwarded your post to a friend of mine in the governor's office. Her email reply (on her non-governmental email): "Tell that idiot that she doesn't know what she's talking about, she's wrong on all counts."
    Well, two things are evident here:

    First, you set the bar very low for friendship.
    Second, your friend is a liar.

    I sent both my post and your friend's response to my colleagues at the Seneca Anti-wind Union (Ohio), and they said that response sounds eerily like one of the lobbyists they regularly come up against, who is deeply in the pocket of the renewable energy scam.

    At any rate -- everything I said was accurate. PILOTS (payment in lieu of taxes) are much less than taxes. RECs can be bought and sold, but energy in the grid cannot be allocated to one place or another. Electric rates are allocated based on regional distribution, depending on the wattage of the transmission line.

    You know I've fought these projects for years (and won), but hey, believe your greenie friends in low places.

    Not my circus. Not my monkeys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I think this person can outdrink both of us.
    What?

    I don't drink.

    You should TB yourself for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73;389[B
    9808]Solar is a scam. It is more expensive energy and only works with subsidies. [/B]
    Somewhere along the way someone gets screwed and it is not these investors like Bezos. He won't operate. He will take the subsidies and bail out. In a few years there will be no Bezos name associated with the solar farm.

    Exactly.
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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