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    Anarchy Achieved: How a Voluntarist [?] Nation Would Work

    You anarcho-libertarian types obviously have a picture of how the nation you would want to live in would work. I'd like to know what the UASA [United Anarchist States of America[] would look like.

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    Individuals would self-govern in accordance with certain axioms related to self-ownership and non-aggression, and economic growth and development would be based on axioms related to private property rights and voluntary contracts, and justice would be administered by the people and their agents when those societal axioms were violated.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Take Their Hide for What They Are Hiding

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    You anarcho-libertarian types obviously have a picture of how the nation you would want to live in would work. I'd like to know what the UASA [United Anarchist States of America[] would look like.

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    They never talk about how businesses would be structured. My guess is no unions, no corporate taxes, no public works, education only for those whose parents can afford it-- an absolute dictatorship of the pre-owned "free" market.
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    You anarcho-libertarian types obviously have a picture of how the nation you would want to live in would work. I'd like to know what the UASA [United Anarchist States of America[] would look like.
    It wouldn't exactly be "America". It wouldn't be a nation in the traditional sense - my take on it.

    Ask us specific questions so we can give you specific answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    They never talk about how businesses would be structured.
    That's because it's impossible to generalize about business structure in the context of a free society. There are any number of permutations and variations on how free individuals could structure a business. You are stuck in a mode of thinking where order arises, not organically, but as a result of some artificial standard being imposed on millions of individuals by a coercive state. Imposing a single standard on millions of people completely destroys the concept of free choice.

    My guess is no unions...
    You guessed wrong. The history of unions in America begins with private unions fighting statist tyranny. One of their biggest ideological allies and defenders was the anarchist and abolitionist Lysander Spooner. The concept of unionization is based on voluntary association, which is obviously consistent with the principles of voluntarism. It's only when unions utilize the coercive power of the state to gain unfair advantages over other laborers and taxpayers that they become unacceptable according to voluntary anarchism.

    ...no corporate taxes...
    Correct, as taxation is just a form of theft that serves to transfer wealth from productive enterprises to political special interest groups.

    ...no public works...
    Why would that be the case? Unless by "public" you really mean "state".

    ...education only for those whose parents can afford it--...
    I guess you've never heard of charity or home-schooling?

    an absolute dictatorship of the pre-owned "free" market.
    The free market is just a conceptual label that is applied to individuals transacting and associating voluntarily. How is that dictatorial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    They never talk about how businesses would be structured. My guess is no unions, no corporate taxes, no public works, education only for those whose parents can afford it-- an absolute dictatorship of the pre-owned "free" market.
    Although Ethereal more or less answered this one. I will poke at the public works.

    Public works simply would not exist - if they did it would be out of charity. Rather it would be private works with clients. Kinda like how I pay for a garbage service - the city doesn't do it, a private company does.

    Same thing would apply to things like fire dept., police, and so forth. At the same time, there wouldn't be public property either. It is either claimed property or it belongs to nobody and can be used as desired by anybody.
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    Ok, so pot holes don't get filled, bridges aren't maintained, food safety regulations disappear...sounds great so far.

    How does the electrical grid kept up? Port facilities? Rail and road networks?

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    ...airports? Air traffic control (Ooooo! That evil word 'cintrol'!--like garlic to vampires!).

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    If you start with "I already know" why bother to respond? It sets the tone. I can certainly give my vision, but I'd need a good reason why at this point, else I'm just wasting keystrokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    Ok, so pot holes don't get filled, bridges aren't maintained, food safety regulations disappear...sounds great so far.

    How does the electrical grid kept up? Port facilities? Rail and road networks?
    How about asking how these things would be maintained instead of assuming they would decay into nothingness?

    Because I personally like bridges, electricity, and roads in good order. I also enjoy safe food too. Do you not think somebody would step in to fill the void?
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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