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    White Privilege

    So, @Safety and I decided to have a discussion about white privilege. I've seen posts of his in the past where he appears to believe white privilege is a thing. I have my reasons for not really believing it is a thing anymore (though I absolutely do not dispute that it was once a thing). I'm open to being proven wrong on this, however, hence this discussion.

    So, @Safety, that's my opening statement. You now have the floor.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    Thank you for the opportunity to discuss this topic, @Green Arrow. Before we begin, can we make sure that we are on the same page in regards to terminology and sources allowed?

    Some terms I may reference:

    Conservative - not necessary the conservative platform, but quotes and comments from self-identified conservative members, not members "called" conservative.
    Liberal - not necessary the liberal platform (if there is one), but quotes and comments from self-identified liberal members, not members "called" liberal.

    I would like to include sources like Wikipedia and internet links that are verified by a reference to any periodical or book.

    And obviously I would like to be able to reference posts made here and on other internet forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Thank you for the opportunity to discuss this topic, @Green Arrow. Before we begin, can we make sure that we are on the same page in regards to terminology and sources allowed?

    Some terms I may reference:

    Conservative - not necessary the conservative platform, but quotes and comments from self-identified conservative members, not members "called" conservative.
    Liberal - not necessary the liberal platform (if there is one), but quotes and comments from self-identified liberal members, not members "called" liberal.

    I would like to include sources like Wikipedia and internet links that are verified by a reference to any periodical or book.

    And obviously I would like to be able to reference posts made here and on other internet forums.
    I don't see any reason why not. Feel free.
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    So, when talking about white privilege, we should make note that whites are the majority in the country. We should also make note that just because something is described as white privilege, it doesn't mean necessary that it's a "get out of jail free" card or that you will even notice when it is used. It is also more so an "understanding" that you should act or behave a certain way.

    I think it stems from a moment in our society where this country was "founded" by Europeans and African slavery was brought into the mix. There was a system of white supremacy ideology that laid the framework for what our current laws are based off of. There is also evidence of this when reading the letters of secession that each state drafted to justify their leaving of the Union.

    I will pause here so that it doesn't get to complex and give you a chance to discuss.

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    So, white privilege, then, is the inherent advantage white people have just by being born white, but that doesn't necessarily mean all white people will benefit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    So, white privilege, then, is the inherent advantage white people have just by being born white, but that doesn't necessarily mean all white people will benefit?
    In my opinion, yes, because it is just a "perk" of being the majority. It's like, not having to explain things like "why blacks have a gap between their teeth" to being a "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy".

    Then there's also the case like this video:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    In my opinion, yes, because it is just a "perk" of being the majority. It's like, not having to explain things like "why blacks have a gap between their teeth" to being a "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy".

    Then there's also the case like this video:

    That video would seem to illustrate blonde female privilege too, not that I can blame them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    That video would seem to illustrate blonde female privilege too, not that I can blame them
    LoL, that's for a whole different discussion....

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    I can see what you're saying with that video, but at the same time, the two black ladies had the same response about the white guy as the white people. They were just like, "Well, that's odd. Oh well."
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    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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