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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I have been gardening for about 12 years. This was ( because it's almost done) year I have ever had by far. 2019 was the best and it has fallen off since then, but nothing like this.
    The garden is in shade much of the day and the tree creating that shade gets bushier every year. I may have it taken down this fall because the roots are also straying towards the leach field and growing above ground making a tripping hazard for the small grandkids and well their old grandparents
    I'm disappointed but there's always next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I have been gardening for about 12 years. This was ( because it's almost done) year I have ever had by far. 2019 was the best and it has fallen off since then, but nothing like this.
    The garden is in shade much of the day and the tree creating that shade gets bushier every year. I may have it taken down this fall because the roots are also straying towards the leach field and growing above ground making a tripping hazard for the small grandkids and well their old grandparents
    If the crops aren't getting at least 6-8 hours of sunlight, and it sounds like they aren't, plus the tree leaching nutrients, you need to decide what to do. Move the garden, or remove the tree.

    We've removed a number of trees that were reducing sunlight for the flower beds, and when we relocated the veggie garden, we also took down a number of trees. Fortunately, they were all those stinky Bradford pears (since label noxious invasive) so no loss there. One that still will likely have to come down is a really big poplar, with a YUGE wrap of poison ivy. That's gonna be messy and needing some engineering to take down so it doesn't damage anything else in the yard or the house.

    Fortunately, we can mill the poplar at about 1/3 the cost of retail. Just don't know how to dispose of the poison ivy, can't burn it, can't bury it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    If the crops aren't getting at least 6-8 hours of sunlight, and it sounds like they aren't, plus the tree leaching nutrients, you need to decide what to do. Move the garden, or remove the tree.

    We've removed a number of trees that were reducing sunlight for the flower beds, and when we relocated the veggie garden, we also took down a number of trees. Fortunately, they were all those stinky Bradford pears (since label noxious invasive) so no loss there. One that still will likely have to come down is a really big poplar, with a YUGE wrap of poison ivy. That's gonna be messy and needing some engineering to take down so it doesn't damage anything else in the yard or the house.

    Fortunately, we can mill the poplar at about 1/3 the cost of retail. Just don't know how to dispose of the poison ivy, can't burn it, can't bury it.
    According to the experts, you should bag and seal the poison ivy and either bury it or take it to a disposal site. If you bury it, you have to leave it until it completely decomposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    According to the experts, you should bag and seal the poison ivy and either bury it or take it to a disposal site. If you bury it, you have to leave it until it completely decomposes.
    The trunk of the poison ivy is about 8" in diameter, and goes WAY up the 30' tree. May have to use a disposable chainsaw and a haz-mat suit to remove it from the tree once it's on the ground.

    Burying it, I would guess you would have to go at least 12" down, or it may sprout. That would be a wicked trench.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    The trunk of the poison ivy is about 8" in diameter, and goes WAY up the 30' tree. May have to use a disposable chainsaw and a haz-mat suit to remove it from the tree once it's on the ground.

    Burying it, I would guess you would have to go at least 12" down, or it may sprout. That would be a wicked trench.
    You also need to seal it in a plastic bag, so that will prevent any growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    According to the experts, you should bag and seal the poison ivy and either bury it or take it to a disposal site. If you bury it, you have to leave it until it completely decomposes.
    We have so much poison ivy this year. Well, we have a lot all years because we're out in the country, but this year it seems especially bad.

    If we mow too close to the brush or treeline, we end up disturbing it up and even if we shower immediately afterward, we seem to have some itches.

    One of our problems this year is that we let it get away from us--so we have massive amounts to steer clear of. In the past, we've treated around trees and in the more remote areas with 2-4D early in the spring when the plants were still tiny and tender. We didn't get around to it this spring so it's out of control now. Everyone's on Benadryl--including the dogs--and we're having to avoid a good deal of our acreage.

    The good thing is that the plant seems more poisonous in the spring and early summer. It's starting to wear down a bit. Still, it's a huge pain. My sister is allergic to it so she has to be very careful. A tiny itch in one spot on her can turn into huge welts and skin that gets hard in just a day.

    I'm still trying to figure out what benefit poison ivy offers the planet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    The trunk of the poison ivy is about 8" in diameter, and goes WAY up the 30' tree. May have to use a disposable chainsaw and a haz-mat suit to remove it from the tree once it's on the ground.

    Burying it, I would guess you would have to go at least 12" down, or it may sprout. That would be a wicked trench.
    Yeah, that's the kind we have, too.

    We've used chainsaws in the past to cut through the bases. The upper portion will die once it's severed and we then put Tordon on the lower cut part of the trunk, which will kill it completely. Still, what a pain in the butt.
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    Is Poison Ivy really that hazardous, that it requires such great lengths to get rid of?

    Really? I had no idea, I thought you could just chop it down, burn it with the rest of the yard/tree trimmings....etc.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    Is Poison Ivy really that hazardous, that it requires such great lengths to get rid of?

    Really? I had no idea, I thought you could just chop it down, burn it with the rest of the yard/tree trimmings....etc.....
    With all due respect you do NOT burn poison ivy. The smoke gets into someone's lungs who is even the slightest bit allergic.... I don't even want to think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    You also need to seal it in a plastic bag, so that will prevent any growth.
    Do you, by any chance, have a bag that will fit a 8" by 20' long vine?
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