Paradox of Tolerance

[jet57]

Instead the left and left wing media are giving them great exposure then by ignoring the left wing violence probably helping to swell their ranks. Congrats lefties!

Antifa and Black Bloc are not being ignored, that's for sure; there's plenty out there on them. The far right hate groups are inciting all of this.

[Hoosier8]

Antifa and Black Bloc are not being ignored, that's for sure; there's plenty out there on them. The far right hate groups are inciting all of this.

Is that why the violence is always referred to as racist violence in the media?

[Chris]

Yeah, that's a good quote.

We gotta have our free speech unencumbered though. The best thing is not to show up at those silly hate rallies.

I think that's the better answer, just don't listen to supremacists and antifa spread their hate.

[jimmyz]

If both sides can maintain a peaceful stance, the opinions and discussion can be shared. Its the threat or use of violence by any side that prevents its furtherance.

[Chris]

If both sides can maintain a peaceful stance, the opinions and discussion can be shared. Its the threat or use of violence by any side that prevents its furtherance.

Yes, then self-defense is called for.

[jet57]

Is that why the violence is always referred to as racist violence in the media?

The racists are the ones that started that violence.

[Chris]

The racists are the ones that started that violence.

I just reviewed a number of timelines of the events in Charlottesville and the closest you will get is "violence between white nationalists and counter-protesters began in the morning."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-le...ry?id=49207428
http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/ch...line-of-events

[Brett Nortje]

Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies, wrote:

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

I never knew this was your bag, baby? the tolerance cannot be enforced, therefore there is only intolerance of everything but you, yes? nihilism at work, same old same old.

[CCitizen]

I propose something that will offend both Liberals and Conservatives.

1) Implement strict Hate Speech Laws -- such as UK, Germany, and Australia.

2) Implement Laws protecting workers from retaliation for off-duty political activity which does not croos over into Hate Speech. Here:

Some states (New York, California, Colorado, North Dakota) have passed laws which prohibit discrimination against an employee for participation in legal activities outside work hours. As long as the conduct does not present a conflict with the employer’s business, the activity should be allowed. However, whether blogging falls under the list of protected activities has yielded varying results in case law.

Hate Speech will definitely be considered to "present a conflict with the employer’s business"; other speech will not meet this standard.

[Lummy]

Gobble-de-goop.