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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Let me see if I can simplify the paradox.

    Tolerance allows for intolerance. To the extreme, intolerance that destroys you and society.

    Neo-Nazis are intolerant, right, and if we allow it, it would destroy what we value.

    So we can't be so absolutely tolerant.

    But this is where it gets complex. If we become intolerant then we become the same as the intolerance we're against.

    So what do we do?

    Popper suggests we use rational argument to persuade public opinion against intolerance.
    In my opinion you people that like to use the word tolerance are promoting hate. Its not good enough to tolerate - you must accept. Acceptance should be the word not tolerance.

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    "What do we do" - tolerant Chris.

    Who is we Chris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    Gobble-de-goop.
    And it seems to be getting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    I propose something that will offend both Liberals and Conservatives.

    1) Implement strict Hate Speech Laws -- such as UK, Germany, and Australia.

    2) Implement Laws protecting workers from retaliation for off-duty political activity which does not croos over into Hate Speech. Here:

    Hate Speech will definitely be considered to "present a conflict with the employer’s business"; other speech will not meet this standard.
    1. We can't do that without changing the First Amendment via a new Constitutional Amendment. That won't happen. And I think it is dangerous. I see the way it is used in Canada. Hate speech is effectively defined as an unpopular opinion.

    2. That could be done. Added to the protected classes in our labor laws. I don't know whether such a bill would pass the current Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneOnly2 View Post
    In my opinion you people that like to use the word tolerance are promoting hate. Its not good enough to tolerate - you must accept. Acceptance should be the word not tolerance.
    This is another great example of projection. This is exactly what the hard left has been doing for years. It is no surprise we see this projected to conservatives.

    What is the first rule of conspiracy? Don't talk about the conspiracy.

    What is the second rule of conspiracy? If suspected blame the other side for doing what you are doing (like this post and the Russia collusion hoax).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    This is another great example of projection. This is exactly what the hard left has been doing for years. It is no surprise we see this projected to conservatives.

    What is the first rule of conspiracy? Don't talk about the conspiracy.

    What is the second rule of conspiracy? If suspected blame the other side for doing what you are doing (like this post and the Russia collusion hoax).
    What?

    If you went to your parents and came out as gay would you want them to say that they will tolerate it or that they accept it! Toleration is not good enough. Its not even good. Putting up with something or someone is a form of hate.

    There is also the fact that the tolerant individual sees themselves as being in a position of power that gives them to right to be giving someone they dislike the permission to act or be a way they don't agree with. Tolerance promotes the idea of the majority being superior.

    Tolerance = hate. Acceptance = love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneOnly2 View Post
    Tolerance = hate. Acceptance = love.
    Where does intolerance stand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    Where does intolerance stand?
    Intolerance should be considered a mental disorder and there is a push to make that the case. Any intolerant behaviour should be considered to be a case of extreme racism and a symptom of delusional disorder.

    I love extreme racists very much and I believe that we must medicate them or if need be care for them in wellness centres. Extreme racists/intolerants are a danger to others as well as a danger to themselves so it is time that the DSM made extreme racism a delusional disorder so we can get these people the help that they need.

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    edit - Problem solved. With love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneOnly2 View Post
    What?

    If you went to your parents and came out as gay would you want them to say that they will tolerate it or that they accept it! Toleration is not good enough. Its not even good. Putting up with something or someone is a form of hate.

    There is also the fact that the tolerant individual sees themselves as being in a position of power that gives them to right to be giving someone they dislike the permission to act or be a way they don't agree with. Tolerance promotes the idea of the majority being superior.

    Tolerance = hate. Acceptance = love.
    This may be one of the most moronic posts I've ever read. Tolerance is all anyone has the right to expect. A gentle society tolerates a good number of things, but suggesting that people must "accept" them is a practice in social engineering. You cannot control another's thoughts, but we can control--to some extent--their actions through laws.

    But those who want to be tolerated must remember that their actions can never harm another, because when they do --- they will not be tolerated nor accepted.

    Must we accept pedophiles? No.
    Must we accept those with anger issues? No.
    Must a Catholic accept abortion? No.

    But, we can tolerate a pedophile in our midst as long as he does not act upon his sickness. We can tolerate a person with anger issues as long as he does not bash in his wife's face. Catholics can tolerate abortion as long as they are not forced to participate by having their tax dollars pay for it or being forced to provide insurance that pays their employees for one.

    Tolerance is fine, but it comes with limits.

    Acceptance is reserved for those who earn it through their peaceful-only actions.
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    This may be one of the most moronic posts I've ever read. Tolerance is all anyone has the right to expect. A gentle society tolerates a good number of things, but suggesting that people must "accept" them is a practice in social engineering. You cannot control another's thoughts, but we can control--to some extent--their actions through laws.

    But those who want to be tolerated must remember that their actions can never harm another, because when they do --- they will not be tolerated nor accepted.

    Must we accept pedophiles? No.
    Must we accept those with anger issues? No.
    Must a Catholic accept abortion? No.

    But, we can tolerate a pedophile in our midst as long as he does not act upon his sickness. We can tolerate a person with anger issues as long as he does not bash in his wife's face. Catholics can tolerate abortion as long as they are not forced to participate by having their tax dollars pay for it or being forced to provide insurance that pays their employees for one.

    Tolerance is fine, but it comes with limits.

    Acceptance is reserved for those who earn it through their peaceful-only actions.
    What is wrong with social engineering exactly? And of course you can control peoples thoughts - especially when we get chips in all of your brains. It will be possible to control your mood.

    Pedophiles have a mental disorder - see DSM. People with anger issues have a mental disorder - see DSM. And Christianity should be considered to be a mental illness.

    Someone that doesnt act on their fantasies cannot be considered to be a pedophile - see DSM. And even if someone is a pedo we must love them and get them help - not hate them. Same with someone that uses physical violence.

    And what are you going to do about your tax dollars or insurance paying for abortion anyway? Bomb an abortion clinic? There are abortions performed in the bible you loon. The Catholic Church are lunatics and so are all christians. We need to make it against the law for you loons to brainwash your children because it is a form of child abuse. And we must destroy christianity because all it is is a bunch of insane mumbo jumbo that promotes hate. For the love of christians and everyone they hate we must destroy christianity.

    And are christians known for peaceful only actions are they? Kill them all and let God sort them out? Its redneck christians that give most support to wars and death penalty. The state has right to kill? Indeed. Its the state that is performing abortions you know.
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