Paradox of Tolerance

[Captdon]

No they are not. Plenty of 13 year olds can pass for 16 and in Britain/Australia you can legally $%$% a 16 year old. The diagnosis must be for someone that is attracted to prepubescent children/13 year olds that look like young children.

We weren't talking about who can pass. We were talking about interest in 13 year-old girls. If they were passing how did you know they were 13? If they were passing for 13, the interest is on 13. That's a pedophile.

[TheOneOnly2]

We weren't talking about who can pass. We were talking about interest in 13 year-old girls. If they were passing how did you know they were 13? If they were passing for 13, the interest is on 13. That's a pedophile.

I do not have an interest in 13 year old girls. Unless they look like they are 16 maybe ( Attraction not interest. Since you are a bunch of thought Nazis I have to clarify that. ). And I dont know any 13 year old girls that can pass for 16 - I dont know any 13 year old girls - I am referring to teen girls in media like the two young ladies in the film Thriteen for example. Perhaps they were older and playing 13 year olds - I dont know - but they do not look prepubescent or 13 to me - they look like they are fully blossomed teens of about 16. Wouldnt you agree? And then you have young actresses like Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver - I didnt realize that she was only 12 in that film until someone mentioned it in my Childhood Crushes thread - I would have guessed that she was older than that. And no I was not drooling over Jodie Foster when I watched Taxi Driver - I was drooling over Cybil Shepherd. Im just saying that a lot of young girls - including 13 year olds - look a lot older than they actually are. So it is a bit ridiculous to say that anyone attracted to a 13 year old is a pedo since a lot of 13 year olds can pass for 16. The whole point of the diagnosis is supposed to label people that are attracted to prepubescent children right? Not to diagnose people that are attracted to individuals that look like they are 16.

edit - You know an odd thing is that there are 16 year olds that could pass for 13 but here in Britain/Australia we could legally %$%$ those girls and nobody is going to get accused of being a pedo. Thats weird right.

edit - You know another weird thing is that the DSM only applies to western nations on this Im pretty sure. So for places like Brazil that have a legal age of 14 it would be a bit odd to call them pedos for being attracted to a 13 year old. Who can tell the difference between a 13 year old and a 14 year old? Same in China and a lot of other places.

[TheOneOnly2]

We weren't talking about who can pass. We were talking about interest in 13 year-old girls. If they were passing how did you know they were 13? If they were passing for 13, the interest is on 13. That's a pedophile.

You know another weird thing is that back in the day dudes would take a 13 year old as their wife. And start having kids with them. %$%$ - Edgar Allan Poe married his 13 year old cousin. That wasnt so long ago. But when do you think uncivilized people think a girl is old enough to take as a wife? After she has period? Average age for first period is 12 right. The first time I really thought about this was when I was reading the book King Rat. King sneaks out of the POW camp and meets with some locals - and he %$%$s a young lady that is about 13 I think and the tribe or whatever dont see a problem with it because the girl has reached %$%$ing age according to their culture. Anyway - what I am saying is that historically it has not been unusual for people to be attracted to 13 year old girls. And in many cultures today it still isnt. Its only western culture really.

[Captdon]

You know another weird thing is that back in the day dudes would take a 13 year old as their wife. And start having kids with them. %$%$ - Edgar Allan Poe married his 13 year old cousin. That wasnt so long ago. But when do you think uncivilized people think a girl is old enough to take as a wife? After she has period? Average age for first period is 12 right. The first time I really thought about this was when I was reading the book King Rat. King sneaks out of the POW camp and meets with some locals - and he %$%$s a young lady that is about 13 I think and the tribe or whatever dont see a problem with it because the girl has reached %$%$ing age according to their culture. Anyway - what I am saying is that historically it has not been unusual for people to be attracted to 13 year old girls. And in many cultures today it still isnt. Its only western culture really.

The past was not today. Interest in a 13 year-old girl is pedophilia. You seem to argue that it isn't and I wonder why.

[TheOneOnly2]

The past was not today. Interest in a 13 year-old girl is pedophilia. You seem to argue that it isn't and I wonder why.

The past is today in many nations/cultures. Just not in the west. And a lot of 13 year olds can pass for 16 so not really. And there are a few reasons why I think this topic is interesting to discuss. I hate the DSM and think it is stupid. Hate 'western' psychology. And no not because I am a pedo but because in the past I have hated Freud because I associate him with capitalist thought. I am a fan of Erich Fromm who was basically the Anti-Freud. And a communist/Marxist. At the core is his opposition to Freuds 'ID' theory which promotes the idea that we are all selfish predators out for all we can get. Fromm countered this by promoting the idea that we are communal animals with a desire to avoid isolation at the core of our being. Pretty much nobody knows this stuff and I didnt read it somewhere I had to figure it out for myself. Which I was motivated to do due to my hate of Freuds. 'ID' and Freud/capitalism is general. But the problem with both of these individuals is that all of their nonsense is designed to justify an economic system and that is all psychology is whether it is capitalist or communist. The aim is to create a new religion that labels anyone that that is not 'normal within the economic system and culture the new religion aims to uphold and justify as a modern day heretic. And like I said before - as much as modern western psychology likes to try to distance itself from crazy Sigmund Freud the incestual drug dealing %$%$ing lunatic they really cannot because their nonsense new religion will always be rooted in his crazy thoughts and idea. And so-called 'scientific psychology' is a complete load of horse %$%$. The DSM is in flux because it is political and an utter load of horse %$%$. The people 'in the field' are dumb brainwashed drones that think a %$%$ of a lot of themselves. I mean %$%$ - imagine if the bible were updated each year or so to reflect the changing culture/society/politics and priests were just like - DEEErRRRrrrrrRRRRRrrrr...... OK. Thats what these people 'in the field' do. They should be %$%$ing ashamed of themselves. Especially these crazy %$%$s that run about trying to label someone as a pedo for alleged thought crimes. And these pieces of %$%$ didnt choose psychology to help anyone - they want to get paid. Half the reason there are so many people with mental problems that cant access mental health services is because we cant afford to pay these %$%$ing people with what they are charging by the hour. Our governments cant afford to pay the %$%$s.

And beyond that - and Im just hitting the tip of the iceberg - I also hate all these %$%$ing lunatic Q people and their pedo hysteria so this topic is funny to me. And all this 'human trafficking' bull%$%$. Modern day slavery bull%$%$. Partly because it is bull%$%$ but mostly because I can see that the endgame is to ban prostitution and I know that is already the case in crazy America but I live in a normal country that does have legal regulated prostitution and I would like it to stay that way.

So if you are a %$%$ing psychologist or whatever the %$%$ then you are the perfect example of how %$%$ing useless you dumb %$%$s are. If I say something outrageous that will offend most people and then say " - see DSM " then what the %$%$ am I doing do you think? Significant distress. But to even have the fantasy to begin with is a form of distress. Yeah ok... Attraction to 13 year old according to diagnosis fine print cancels out this anyway.. Yeah ok... But only if you live in the west. HA. And %$%$ - I can see why Martin Luther had so much support for pushing for Bible to be translated so the majority of the population could actually read the %$%$ing thing. I have to %$%$ing buy the %$%$ do I? So I can read the fine print. And avoid rude %$%$s being smart Alecs telling us not to speak of the DSM because we havent been able to "actually read" the %$%$ and its %$%$ing fine print. And we arent in the %$%$ing field. If the DSM is the new bible we all should have access to it - for free. $225 from Booktopia? Jesus %$%$ing Christ. And the %$%$ is on discount - was $244.44. Holy %$%$.

edit - If you are not 'in the field' then I dont think you are allowed to talk about this stuff are you? You got a frock? I mean white coat?

Edit - And Martin Luther thought the Catholic Church was wrong to seek money. HA! You only put in the plate what you can right? What are these %$%$s making an hour? $250 for a DSM?

[Matt Dillon]

The movement to intolerance on our campuses threaten the freedom of future free speech.

Yeah, that's about as illiberal as it gets.

When did it get like that? Certainly wasn't that way when I was in school.

[Captdon]

The past is today in many nations/cultures. Just not in the west. And a lot of 13 year olds can pass for 16 so not really. And there are a few reasons why I think this topic is interesting to discuss. I hate the DSM and think it is stupid. Hate 'western' psychology. And no not because I am a pedo but because in the past I have hated Freud because I associate him with capitalist thought. I am a fan of Erich Fromm who was basically the Anti-Freud. And a communist/Marxist. At the core is his opposition to Freuds 'ID' theory which promotes the idea that we are all selfish predators out for all we can get. Fromm countered this by promoting the idea that we are communal animals with a desire to avoid isolation at the core of our being. Pretty much nobody knows this stuff and I didnt read it somewhere I had to figure it out for myself. Which I was motivated to do due to my hate of Freuds. 'ID' and Freud/capitalism is general. But the problem with both of these individuals is that all of their nonsense is designed to justify an economic system and that is all psychology is whether it is capitalist or communist. The aim is to create a new religion that labels anyone that that is not 'normal within the economic system and culture the new religion aims to uphold and justify as a modern day heretic. And like I said before - as much as modern western psychology likes to try to distance itself from crazy Sigmund Freud the incestual drug dealing %$%$ing lunatic they really cannot because their nonsense new religion will always be rooted in his crazy thoughts and idea. And so-called 'scientific psychology' is a complete load of horse %$%$. The DSM is in flux because it is political and an utter load of horse %$%$. The people 'in the field' are dumb brainwashed drones that think a %$%$ of a lot of themselves. I mean %$%$ - imagine if the bible were updated each year or so to reflect the changing culture/society/politics and priests were just like - DEEErRRRrrrrrRRRRRrrrr...... OK. Thats what these people 'in the field' do. They should be %$%$ing ashamed of themselves. Especially these crazy %$%$s that run about trying to label someone as a pedo for alleged thought crimes. And these pieces of %$%$ didnt choose psychology to help anyone - they want to get paid. Half the reason there are so many people with mental problems that cant access mental health services is because we cant afford to pay these %$%$ing people with what they are charging by the hour. Our governments cant afford to pay the %$%$s.

And beyond that - and Im just hitting the tip of the iceberg - I also hate all these %$%$ing lunatic Q people and their pedo hysteria so this topic is funny to me. And all this 'human trafficking' bull%$%$. Modern day slavery bull%$%$. Partly because it is bull%$%$ but mostly because I can see that the endgame is to ban prostitution and I know that is already the case in crazy America but I live in a normal country that does have legal regulated prostitution and I would like it to stay that way.

So if you are a %$%$ing psychologist or whatever the %$%$ then you are the perfect example of how %$%$ing useless you dumb %$%$s are. If I say something outrageous that will offend most people and then say " - see DSM " then what the %$%$ am I doing do you think? Significant distress. But to even have the fantasy to begin with is a form of distress. Yeah ok... Attraction to 13 year old according to diagnosis fine print cancels out this anyway.. Yeah ok... But only if you live in the west. HA. And %$%$ - I can see why Martin Luther had so much support for pushing for Bible to be translated so the majority of the population could actually read the %$%$ing thing. I have to %$%$ing buy the %$%$ do I? So I can read the fine print. And avoid rude %$%$s being smart Alecs telling us not to speak of the DSM because we havent been able to "actually read" the %$%$ and its %$%$ing fine print. And we arent in the %$%$ing field. If the DSM is the new bible we all should have access to it - for free. $225 from Booktopia? Jesus %$%$ing Christ. And the %$%$ is on discount - was $244.44. Holy %$%$.

edit - If you are not 'in the field' then I dont think you are allowed to talk about this stuff are you? You got a frock? I mean white coat?

Edit - And Martin Luther thought the Catholic Church was wrong to seek money. HA! You only put in the plate what you can right? What are these %$%$s making an hour? $250 for a DSM?

Well, you're right I'm not in this field. I'm not a pervert.

I done with you now. Remember, there is no internet in prison.

[TheOneOnly2]

Well, you're right I'm not in this field. I'm not a pervert.

I done with you now. Remember, there is no internet in prison.

Mental health workers are perverts?

And I won't be going to prison - I have not done anything wrong. I do not look at child porn or want to. I do not groom children. Following a teen girls YouTube channel is not illegal. Even if people in the 'field' want to say I'm not normal for doing that. Or that it is proof of significant distress. Cops can take my computer. Nothing illegal on it. Nothing illegal in history.

And I'm so sad that you are done with me. What I will miss the most is you calling me a pedo.

Edit - What is western psychology if not am excuse to attack people that are not normal? No wonder so many people have mental health problems. Maybe the problem is capitalism - not them. And these $%$%s that get paid a fortune to run about bullying everyone that isn't normal.

Edit - If you are an adult that likes Twilight books or movies - you are not normal! You have nothing in common with these teenagers. You freak! Stop reading YA literature adults! Its a sign of significant distress! There is something wrong with you!

Edit - An oh yeah - as an adult I have passed up sex with attractive 16 year olds more than once even though it would have been legal. So I sure as $%$% am not going to molest a child. I am not attracted to children and even if I was I wouldn't abuse them. I'm attracted to hot 16 year olds and I considered myself too old for them. So whatever. Thought Nazis.